Joint Liaison Group Webinar Transcript

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Good morning to this joint
liaison group. My name is Julia

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Mulligan and I'm the chair of
the Gangmasters and Labour Abuse

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Authority. Hopefully we've got
an interesting agenda for you

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today.

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Umm, I'm just gonna say, uh,
explain who we've got.

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And for the next hour and a
half, so you've got the the I'm

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going to just talk about a
briefly, the new GLA strategy

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and I'm going to ask Ian to talk
us through a case study in

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Waterfield.

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From the GLA to took us to
through a case study, Sam Island

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is then going to talk through
how our control strategy and

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intelligence functions have been
developing over the last few

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months and then I'm going to
hand over to Keith Rosser from

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Jobs aware. Keith has two hats.
He's also a non exec director of

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the GLA and then Frank and Adina
are going to take us through the

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Romanian Workers rights project.

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Umm, so I hopefully that that's
clear and this is a webinar so

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if anybody's got any questions,
please just drop them in the

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chat and we've got Alicia, chief
executive of the GLA here as

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well. And she'll gather up the
questions at the end and make

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sure that everybody has a chance
to get an answer if they so

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wish. So please do feel free to
put your questions in the chat

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as we go through the meeting
today. And just note that it's

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going to be recorded.

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And and put on the on the
website so. So hopefully people

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who haven't been able to make it
get a chance to to hear it as

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well. And so with that I will go
straight into my slides which

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are few in number. You'll be
pleased to hear.

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And which just gives you a quick
overview of the new strategy

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that the GLA has been developing
over the past few months. And

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just to point to note at the
moment that we have to get our

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strategies signed off by the
Minister and this hasn't yet

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been signed off by the Minister.
So unfortunately at this point

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in time, we won't be able to
circulate the detail to you, but

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once it has been signed off, we
will do so and and hopefully

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that that will be be helpful. So
we just we thought it'd be

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helpful to give a heads up on
what we've been thinking and

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where we're gonna go.

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Over the next three years for
everybody today.

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So work on the new strategy.
This is a new strategy lasting

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for three years, starting from a
now. So through over the next,

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the next three years, it's the
responsibility of the board of

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the GLA to develop the strategy.
But of course we don't do that

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in isolation. We do that and
working with colleagues and also

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of course listening to.

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Our partners and our
stakeholders UM and umm, we've

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also been doing quite a lot of
work around the sort of

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functions and structure of the
GLA over the last few months and

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that's generated a huge amount
of data and evidence about our

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work which is has fed into the
strategy as well. So people will

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be aware that approximately 5
years ago the JLA was expanded

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and got some new powers.

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We've got a a new board. Alice
has been in place for about 18

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months. I've been imposed since
November 2021, and so we felt

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that this has been a good
opportunity to really have a

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good sit down and really good
think about what the

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organization does, why we're
here and and and and what we

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want to do over the next few
years and really our our

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conversations and thinking
focused around you know, what is

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it that the GLA does that nobody
else can do. So what is our

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niche, what is our specialism.

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What? What? Uh, you know what is
our core remit? And so of course

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the GLA was brought into being
as a consequence of the tragedy

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in Morecambe Bay and we're here
to protect exploited and and

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vulnerable workers. And we are
principally a regulator. And so

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really I'm new strategy looks at
how we can become a really

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effective regulator and what
that means for us in terms of

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our resources.

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And the people that we work with
and the people importantly that

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we we protect and so we have a
new mission which is slightly

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different from where we were. We
are now and that is to stop the

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exploitation of workers in the
UK and to ensure employers treat

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them fairly. And we thought long
and hard about that in

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particular. We thought about the
word stop.

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And I mean it's it's an
aspiration is to stop that being

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a regulator we would we would
like to do ourselves out of

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business because if we didn't
exist then people or if there

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wasn't a need for us, then we
would have achieved what we have

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set out to do. But we felt it
was really important to be

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really clear about why we're
here and what we we need to do.

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So that's that's our new
mission.

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We then have set ourselves 3
strategic goals and do you want

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to just move the slide on a
little bit? Thank you. And so we

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have 3 strategic goals and these
are the real sort of the

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foundation of our new strategy
for the next three years. So the

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first concerns are regulatory
functions. So to be a robust and

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effective regulator. So we
recognise that excuse me.

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That, you know, regulation has
been has been a challenge for

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the organization over the past
few years and we are determined

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to achieve that goal over the
next three years. And because

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that really is at the very heart
of what we of what we do. The

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second goal is around our
prevention, intelligence

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functions and our expertise and
our knowledge.

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Tensional stop following this
announcement. They'll be routine

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bilam test. Thank you. I we've
got a fire alarm test here at

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the GLA. I'm not quite sure what
that entails, but we'll find out

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shortly.

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OK, hopefully that's over.

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OK, alright. So the second
element, uh, the second of our

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strategic girls is to be known
as experts in addressing worker

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abuse and exploitation. So we
really we we we are really clear

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around what our specialism is,
what our core mission is and we

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need to build our expertise and
knowledge about the threat risk

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and harm that we're here to
tackle and we need to ensure

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that.

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Everybody that we work with.

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We can share that with everybody
that we work with, umm, and that

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we can use it to, UM, develop
our prevention activities and

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the work that we do with our
partners, which leads me onto

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the third strategic girl goal,
which is to be an essential

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enforcement partner. So we
obviously work widely with wide

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range of partners at the moment
and we know that our work can be

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the most effective when we work
effectively with our partners

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and that it is absolutely
essential to what we.

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To and of course, we wish to
continue and to develop that and

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so that gives you a sort of
whistle stop tour of the sort of

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real focus of our strategy. We
we will be publishing it in due

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course, but if you've got any
questions about that, please do

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let us know and we're very happy
to try and answer them.

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And.

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I think that's all I've got to
say, which leads me nicely, I

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think into the first of our
speakers, which is Ian

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Waterfield, who's our our head
of enforcement. Ian is going to

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talk to us about a case study of
adept and agile who have had

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their license revoked and have
also been subject to a strobe.

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So, Ian, over to you. Thank you.

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OK. Can everybody hear me OK?

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Yeah. Can you hear me?

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Yes. Yeah, we can hear you.

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The right. OK, I have you. Have
you got my slides on there,

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Catherine, do you want me to to
share?

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I yes, I can do, yeah.

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Yeah. Can you can can you can
you that make it easier if if

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you could that be great so so I
think what I want to talk about

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I think while the slides kind of
come up is hopefully a kind of

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interesting case really is a
case study, it revolves around

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the supply of seasonal and
temporary workers into the UK

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from Nepal and some follow up
enforcement action. There are

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some difficulties, this is an
ongoing investigation. So other

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than adept and agile, I won't be
naming any of the other

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companies.

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Not involved. You know clearly
we are still part way through

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the prosecution. So I'm not the
investigation, hopefully

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prosecution. So I'm just sharing
with you what I can. So OK, if

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you can move on to the next
slide.

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So, so really in terms of the
overseas supply of workers,

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this, this is this is a become a
real issue.

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Over the last couple of years
for the Gillian and Samuel talk

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later on about kind of how this
fits into our our control

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strategy. As we all know, the UK
is heavily reliant in some

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sectors of the labour market on
the supply of seasonal and

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00:11:40.740 --> 00:11:41.811
temporary workers.

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I guess in the past that supply
used to come predominantly from

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from Eastern Europe, but as we
as we know now and we see that

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businesses are sourcing workers
from many other areas of the

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world and you know we've come
across recruitment agencies or

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trying to source workers from as
many as 58 different countries,

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which clearly gives some
difficulties in terms of due

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diligence and things like that
which I'll touch on a little bit

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later on for us for the GLAA
relationships with law

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enforcement and labour
inspectorates.

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Or are are patchy. We used to
have significant good

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relationships with kind of
police in wider law enforcement

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and labour inspectorates in the
UK, which was great for us to

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enable checks on companies and
also to assist with

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interventions kind of in
country.

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Now, now that people are
recruiting much further afield,

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that's much more difficult for
us.

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We haven't got the same kind of
relationships, although they are

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vastly improved in some
countries, for example, such as

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Indonesia, but are very patchy
in the in the pool, which is

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what this presentation relates
to. So we're working with the

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FCDO and embassies to try and
make the links that we need to

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do to build those kind of
relationships or help us in, in,

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in the past in the future,
sorry, there are issues clearly.

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Which which became parent in
this case around fee charging

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for kind of work finding fees
and visa fees. Whereas we know

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that many of those breach Gill
air licensing standards but they

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are not necessarily legal in
some of those.

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This on the countries that we're
working with, certainly in

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Nepal, it's not necessarily
illegal, but I think I'll show

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in any event, so that the
behavior continued in the UK,

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which enable us to act in the
way we do. There are inherent

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problems, I think with the
associative visa schemes, not

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only the seasonal worker scheme,
but skilled worker visas and.

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There are gaps, I believe, in
those in those schemes which

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you're trying to fix. It's a big
issue in another area which I'm

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heavily involved in, for
example, in, in care homes and

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the provision of care. And there
are clearly jurisdictional

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difficulties for us.

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If things go wrong, so if you
could move me on to the next

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slide please.

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So there's a lot of information.

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On on this slide, but you know
hopefully.

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Will be provided with the slides
and you be able to to read

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through that. But this this
case.

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Revolved around a GLAA licence
holder. As Julia touched on, the

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company called Adept and Agile
or based in Kathmandu in Nepal.

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Just bear with me.

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Of its these, I'll put it in
words, it's not working.

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Yeah, apparently my camera is
not working so.

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A thought about my cameras not
working. It won't work, so

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apologies for that.

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So it.

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Say the the company basing the
Paul so they were a sourcing

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00:14:44.654 --> 00:14:47.377
workers for a UK based
recruitment agency for supply

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into the poultry sector.

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Uh, they they contact us several
businesses in the UK advertising

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as a an ethical business,
offering skilled overseas

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recruitment into a variety of
sectors.

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In the UK.

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Though the end point businesses
in the poultry sector have not

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engaged nor being aware of the
evolvement of it, adept and

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00:15:10.039 --> 00:15:12.998
agile that are being done
through a third party UK

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00:15:12.998 --> 00:15:14.101
recruitment agency.

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We know now through our
investigation that adept and

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00:15:18.202 --> 00:15:20.811
Agile are effectively a criminal
enterprise.

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They were targeting vulnerable
perspective workers in Nepal.

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They were desperate for work
outside of Nepal than they were

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using other agency names to try
and entice workers. For example,

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00:15:33.459 --> 00:15:36.653
companies like the Peace
Institute and other similar

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00:15:36.653 --> 00:15:40.570
company names that kind of give
a different spin on what they do

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and they were all effective and
run by the same people. So they

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00:15:44.427 --> 00:15:48.103
were giving false information to
workers about what the work

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00:15:48.103 --> 00:15:51.839
would look like in the UK in
terms of kind of pay the sort of

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work.

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That they were doing the sort of
lifestyle that they could expect

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00:15:55.338 --> 00:15:55.811
in the UK.

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We know that the workers were
bullied and cheated into paying

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00:16:00.663 --> 00:16:04.576
unwanted fees. We I'll come on
to the numbers of workers that

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00:16:04.576 --> 00:16:08.299
we encountered, but in the main
there were paying anywhere

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00:16:08.299 --> 00:16:10.761
between 11,019 thousand UK
pounds for.

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00:16:11.501 --> 00:16:12.461
The provision of.

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00:16:14.131 --> 00:16:17.699
Work finding and also the the
visas required to come and work

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00:16:17.699 --> 00:16:21.094
in the UK and costs as we know
by right that they probably

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00:16:21.094 --> 00:16:24.605
didn't need to pay, certainly
wouldn't have had to pay those

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00:16:24.605 --> 00:16:25.181
in the UK.

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They were forced into pay in
installments because, you know,

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00:16:29.701 --> 00:16:33.015
it's a particularly poor
country. There's not that, you

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00:16:33.015 --> 00:16:36.329
know, then got access to a lot
of money. So people were

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00:16:36.329 --> 00:16:40.117
obtaining loans, securing loans
against property, borrowing off

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00:16:40.117 --> 00:16:43.786
family. And the offenders, in
this case as a result then with

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00:16:43.786 --> 00:16:46.982
held their passports and
identity documents until the

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00:16:46.982 --> 00:16:50.356
money could be paid and had
significant control over the

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00:16:50.356 --> 00:16:52.191
bank accounts of those workers.

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00:16:53.391 --> 00:16:57.681
Uh that they encountered, but
workers were also subject to

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00:16:57.681 --> 00:16:58.991
threats and abuse.

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00:17:01.741 --> 00:17:05.183
By the offenders, they were
threatened that if they kind of

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00:17:05.183 --> 00:17:08.510
talk to either Nepalese law
enforcement authorities or UK

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00:17:08.510 --> 00:17:11.780
law enforcement authorities
about the kind of payment of

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00:17:11.780 --> 00:17:14.591
fees and what was happening,
that they would be.

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00:17:15.961 --> 00:17:19.864
There would be further issues
for them both in the UK and also

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00:17:19.864 --> 00:17:23.767
threats towards family back in
Nepal, which you can imagine is

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00:17:23.767 --> 00:17:27.174
really difficult if you got
family back there, you are

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00:17:27.174 --> 00:17:31.202
working in the UK to send money
back to Nepal and you can't kind

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00:17:31.202 --> 00:17:35.105
of protect them because you are
so far away. So clearly that's

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00:17:35.105 --> 00:17:38.141
some control being exerted
around those workers.

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00:17:38.741 --> 00:17:42.973
And this investigation was
uncovered by chance really for

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/6306-1
00:17:42.973 --> 00:17:47.498
us when UK borders officials
detained 8 Nepalese nationals at

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00:17:47.498 --> 00:17:50.271
Manchester Airport in August of
2022.

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00:17:51.091 --> 00:17:55.743
They were concerned about what
they've been told at the border.

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00:17:55.743 --> 00:18:00.178
They contacted ourselves and
other enforcement bodies, which

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00:18:00.178 --> 00:18:04.467
resulted in the in the GLAA on
immigration officials doing

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00:18:04.467 --> 00:18:04.831
some.

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00:18:05.551 --> 00:18:12.001
Uh, further safeguarding visits
at a number of sites in the UK.

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00:18:13.311 --> 00:18:15.332
And you'll see how you see on
the right of the slide there.

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00:18:15.332 --> 00:18:17.421
I've already touched on some of
the legislative difficulties.

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00:18:17.571 --> 00:18:21.821
Uh, you know, investigate
limitations are are real for us.

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/6379-1
00:18:21.821 --> 00:18:23.551
We have no jurisdiction.

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00:18:24.591 --> 00:18:28.221
On the kind of seasonal worker
scheme, we have no jurisdiction

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/6425-1
00:18:28.221 --> 00:18:31.794
to kind of intervene in Nepal.
The only way that the GLAA can

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00:18:31.794 --> 00:18:35.078
get involved is if there is
additional offending and the

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00:18:35.078 --> 00:18:38.074
appending continues in the UK
and clearly there are

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00:18:38.074 --> 00:18:41.647
safeguarding issues for us both
in Nepal because we knew that

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00:18:41.647 --> 00:18:43.261
there was an ongoing supply.

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00:18:44.281 --> 00:18:48.101
Of workers and it was difficult
for us to ensure that they were

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00:18:48.101 --> 00:18:51.802
safeguarded in the pool before
they actually left for the UK.

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00:18:51.802 --> 00:18:53.951
So there's some significant
issues.

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00:18:54.941 --> 00:18:59.262
Uh, for us in how we were going
to investigate the allegations

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00:18:59.262 --> 00:19:03.240
that were starting to be made
based on that kind of first

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00:19:03.240 --> 00:19:05.641
interaction at Manchester
Airport.

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00:19:06.581 --> 00:19:08.971
So if it can kind of move on to
the next slide, please.

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00:19:11.081 --> 00:19:13.101
So the GLAA investigation.

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00:19:14.281 --> 00:19:15.071
Over the next.

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00:19:15.801 --> 00:19:19.700
Couple of months we identified
155 workers that had been

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00:19:19.700 --> 00:19:24.216
supplied by adept and agile into
the poultry sector in the UK and

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00:19:24.216 --> 00:19:28.252
if you think what spoke about
earlier about them all being

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00:19:28.252 --> 00:19:31.810
charged between, you know, 11
and £19,000, that's a

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00:19:31.810 --> 00:19:36.325
significant amount of money that
the that the license agency back

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00:19:36.325 --> 00:19:36.941
in Nepal.

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00:19:40.121 --> 00:19:44.427
A taken from these workers,
there were legitimate fees that

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00:19:44.427 --> 00:19:48.447
that could be levied in in the
UK and they they kind of

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00:19:48.447 --> 00:19:53.113
amounted to another 5000. So the
workers were completely unaware

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/6622-3
00:19:53.113 --> 00:19:57.563
of that until they arrived in
the UK, so taking their kind of

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00:19:57.563 --> 00:20:02.013
total debt, you know, kind of 16
to 24,000 pounds on average,

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00:20:02.013 --> 00:20:06.464
which is a significant amount of
money to anybody. Never mind

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/6622-6
00:20:06.464 --> 00:20:08.761
somebody hasn't got access to a.

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00:20:09.421 --> 00:20:12.614
To great means back in back in
their home country. And when you

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/6654-1
00:20:12.614 --> 00:20:15.659
look at the kind of contracts on
the salaries that they will

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/6654-2
00:20:15.659 --> 00:20:18.952
likely to earn during that time,
it was unlikely that they'd ever

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00:20:18.952 --> 00:20:19.901
be able to service.

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00:20:20.201 --> 00:20:23.731
Umm, that debt and of course
adept and agile were actually

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00:20:23.731 --> 00:20:27.082
actually getting a double hit
because they were clearly

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00:20:27.082 --> 00:20:30.911
charging not only the workers,
but they're also charging the UK

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00:20:30.911 --> 00:20:34.142
businesses for the for the
services. And so they were

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00:20:34.142 --> 00:20:37.972
getting kind of a double hit. So
making a significant amount of

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00:20:37.972 --> 00:20:38.331
money.

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00:20:41.251 --> 00:20:44.997
In this, I've already touched on
themselves, you know, talking

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00:20:44.997 --> 00:20:48.802
about themselves and established
recruitment agency, there were

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/6786-2
00:20:48.802 --> 00:20:52.667
there were issues clearly in the
UK. You know one thing to think

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00:20:52.667 --> 00:20:56.175
about is how do how do you UK
businesses conduct their due

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00:20:56.175 --> 00:20:59.862
diligence. So clearly there was
a UK based recruitment agency

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00:20:59.862 --> 00:21:03.786
that was acting as a kind of a a
middle person. But you know what

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00:21:03.786 --> 00:21:06.878
we found is not everybody
necessarily looks further

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00:21:06.878 --> 00:21:10.743
upstream to have a look at where
those workers are being sourced

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00:21:10.743 --> 00:21:11.041
from.

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00:21:11.161 --> 00:21:14.293
And you know what? You know
what, practically can you do if

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00:21:14.293 --> 00:21:16.591
you got recruitment agent that's
trying to?

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00:21:18.251 --> 00:21:20.538
Trying to recruit from 58
different countries, for

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00:21:20.538 --> 00:21:23.274
example, how do they? How do
they conduct that due diligence

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00:21:23.274 --> 00:21:25.921
to be able to ensure that those
workers are being sourced?

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00:21:26.341 --> 00:21:31.237
Umm, in a way that would be
ethical to us, kind of in the

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00:21:31.237 --> 00:21:31.491
UK.

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00:21:32.361 --> 00:21:36.366
So so once the GLAA and other
law enforcement bodies started

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00:21:36.366 --> 00:21:40.634
to interact with the workers on
site, we initially got four only

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00:21:40.634 --> 00:21:43.721
four, only four referrals around
the behavior.

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00:21:45.351 --> 00:21:48.741
That was continuing in the UK
and also the payment of.

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00:21:49.831 --> 00:21:53.392
A fee. So we got we got four
which add to 155, you know

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00:21:53.392 --> 00:21:56.000
wasn't a lot, but the
persistence of the

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00:21:56.000 --> 00:21:56.891
investigators.

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00:21:57.881 --> 00:22:01.551
Over the months that followed,
we eventually had 120.

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00:22:02.181 --> 00:22:06.340
That kind of confirmed they'd
all been treated in the same

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00:22:06.340 --> 00:22:10.851
way, and that the intimidation
and threats continued throughout

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00:22:10.851 --> 00:22:12.191
their work in life.

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00:22:14.011 --> 00:22:17.582
In the UK, there are also issues
about accommodation that was

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00:22:17.582 --> 00:22:19.771
provided in the UK and links
back to.

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00:22:20.551 --> 00:22:23.940
So the kind of licence holder in
Nepal and they they had got

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00:22:23.940 --> 00:22:25.941
people working in the UK that
were.

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00:22:26.661 --> 00:22:30.751
Kind of exerting ongoing control
over their over those.

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00:22:31.701 --> 00:22:36.276
Over the workers, so all the 120
were referred into the national

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00:22:36.276 --> 00:22:40.078
referral mechanism, either
voluntarily or by means of

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/6987-2
00:22:40.078 --> 00:22:40.571
notify.

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00:22:41.921 --> 00:22:45.104
But because the threats and
intimidation continue in the UK,

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00:22:45.104 --> 00:22:48.131
that was the trigger for us to
be able to use the powers.

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00:22:48.351 --> 00:22:52.412
Umm that we got and we decided
that we needed to exert some

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00:22:52.412 --> 00:22:55.933
immediate control. And so we
went for a slavery and

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00:22:55.933 --> 00:23:00.130
trafficking risk order. So they
were, they were given powers,

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00:23:00.130 --> 00:23:02.161
was given to the GLAA in 2017.

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00:23:03.011 --> 00:23:05.950
They are a civil order and they
use to prevent slavery and

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/7063-1
00:23:05.950 --> 00:23:08.890
trafficking by somebody we
suspect has already committed a

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/7063-2
00:23:08.890 --> 00:23:11.431
modern slavery offence, which we
did in this case.

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00:23:12.151 --> 00:23:14.575
And the courts got to be
satisfied that the orders

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/7076-1
00:23:14.575 --> 00:23:15.051
necessary.

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00:23:16.421 --> 00:23:19.932
To protect against a risk of
harm and continue defending, so

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/7110-1
00:23:19.932 --> 00:23:23.214
we issue those during the
investigation, it allows us to

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/7110-2
00:23:23.214 --> 00:23:26.725
get control over the over the
offenders and to safeguard the

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00:23:26.725 --> 00:23:29.201
victims. We can put some fairly
draconian.

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00:23:29.961 --> 00:23:33.150
Conditions on individuals. We
can stop them from recruiting

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/7131-1
00:23:33.150 --> 00:23:36.232
workers. We can stop them from
travelling, stop them from

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00:23:36.232 --> 00:23:38.731
accessing bank accounts holding
bank accounts.

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00:23:41.211 --> 00:23:44.582
We can stop them doing almost
anything, which which enables us

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/7147-1
00:23:44.582 --> 00:23:47.151
then to carry on the
investigation uninhibited.

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/7173-0
00:23:48.391 --> 00:23:52.123
Really, we we've used this tool
really effectively early in

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00:23:52.123 --> 00:23:56.104
investigations and I think that
we've become a national lead in

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00:23:56.104 --> 00:23:58.281
this area. We have 34 such
orders.

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00:23:59.801 --> 00:24:02.261
In place, but this the first
time.

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/7196-0
00:24:03.191 --> 00:24:07.153
The UK had ever managed to
secure a slave and trafficking

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/7196-1
00:24:07.153 --> 00:24:09.681
risk order for offenders that
lived.

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/7211-0
00:24:10.541 --> 00:24:14.914
Outside the UK and the offending
started outside the UK had never

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/7211-1
00:24:14.914 --> 00:24:16.571
been done before we were.

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00:24:18.081 --> 00:24:21.739
It was kind of a step into the
unknown for us about whether we

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/7224-1
00:24:21.739 --> 00:24:22.901
could make the case.

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/7265-0
00:24:23.811 --> 00:24:28.363
To be able to do that, but the
core did issue as the the order

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/7265-1
00:24:28.363 --> 00:24:32.844
as a result of US issuing that
order. As you know, workers at

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/7265-2
00:24:32.844 --> 00:24:37.397
all have been charged another
5000 by businesses in the UK. We

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/7265-3
00:24:37.397 --> 00:24:39.421
managed to recover £275,000.

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00:24:40.661 --> 00:24:43.617
For those workers from
businesses in the UK, and we

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/7328-1
00:24:43.617 --> 00:24:47.199
think there's probably gonna be
somewhere in the region of the

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/7328-2
00:24:47.199 --> 00:24:50.838
same, again still to recover our
investigation is still ongoing

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/7328-3
00:24:50.838 --> 00:24:54.420
and discussions are taking place
around prosecution. There are

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/7328-4
00:24:54.420 --> 00:24:57.434
some, as I've said, some
jurisdictional issues about

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/7328-5
00:24:57.434 --> 00:25:00.504
whether we can prosecute. We
don't have any locust to

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/7328-6
00:25:00.504 --> 00:25:03.176
prosecute in Nepal, our
relationships with law

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/7328-7
00:25:03.176 --> 00:25:05.451
enforcement are still in their
infancy.

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/7374-0
00:25:06.471 --> 00:25:10.150
So to try and get the Nepalese
authorities to prosecute is

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/7374-1
00:25:10.150 --> 00:25:13.704
quite difficult, but we are in
in discussions with Crown

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/7374-2
00:25:13.704 --> 00:25:16.947
Prosecution Service about
whether we think there is

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/7374-3
00:25:16.947 --> 00:25:20.377
sufficient to mounted
prosecution. The actual issue of

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/7374-4
00:25:20.377 --> 00:25:24.492
the slavery and trafficking risk
order generates some significant

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/7374-5
00:25:24.492 --> 00:25:26.301
media attention in Nepal and.

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00:25:27.231 --> 00:25:31.163
And the government temporarily
suspended supply and workers to

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/7398-1
00:25:31.163 --> 00:25:34.845
the UK while they tried to
grapple with some of the issues

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/7398-2
00:25:34.845 --> 00:25:38.341
over there. So it kind of had a
major deterrent effect.

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/7407-0
00:25:39.681 --> 00:25:42.741
Over there. So that's something
that we'll look to.

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/7480-0
00:25:43.791 --> 00:25:47.596
To use in the future, it's just
on the prosecution front. If at

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/7480-1
00:25:47.596 --> 00:25:51.045
the end of this that we don't
get to a prosecution phase,

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/7480-2
00:25:51.045 --> 00:25:54.672
we've had a lot of success with
going back to court with the

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/7480-3
00:25:54.672 --> 00:25:58.181
intelligence that we've gathered
over an investigation and

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/7480-4
00:25:58.181 --> 00:26:01.867
getting the courts to kind of
extend the scope of the slavery

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/7480-5
00:26:01.867 --> 00:26:05.554
and trafficking risk orders for
up to 10 years. So that means

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00:26:05.554 --> 00:26:09.419
that we can put some significant
control around those offenders,

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/7480-7
00:26:09.419 --> 00:26:12.928
probably a lot more than we
would be able to do if we were

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/7480-8
00:26:12.928 --> 00:26:13.701
to prosecute.

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00:26:13.801 --> 00:26:16.791
So if we can move on to the the
final slide.

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00:26:20.331 --> 00:26:24.097
Clearly there are, you know, in
terms of our kind of licensing

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/7518-1
00:26:24.097 --> 00:26:27.625
approach. This was not just
about prosecution clear. There

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/7518-2
00:26:27.625 --> 00:26:31.452
are GLAA licence holder. So that
license was issued in February

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/7518-3
00:26:31.452 --> 00:26:31.751
2022.

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00:26:32.601 --> 00:26:35.927
There are some difficulties for
us in issuing licences to

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/7588-1
00:26:35.927 --> 00:26:39.598
overseas applicants, you know,
especially post COVID. You know,

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/7588-2
00:26:39.598 --> 00:26:43.039
we used to do a lot of that in
the UK. Now a lot of that is

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/7588-3
00:26:43.039 --> 00:26:46.423
done through virtually and
that's that's kind of something

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/7588-4
00:26:46.423 --> 00:26:49.806
we're looking at. But as a
result of our investigation, we

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/7588-5
00:26:49.806 --> 00:26:53.305
were able to then suspend the
licence for adept and agile in

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/7588-6
00:26:53.305 --> 00:26:56.918
in December 2018 and then using
the evidence that we collected

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/7588-7
00:26:56.918 --> 00:26:59.901
in the investigation stage,
finally able to revoke.

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00:27:00.901 --> 00:27:04.203
Not licence in 2023, so a
really, really good example of

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/7666-1
00:27:04.203 --> 00:27:07.564
joined up enforcement and
licensing activity. We have got

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/7666-2
00:27:07.564 --> 00:27:11.214
some recent intelligence at that
company also trying to supply

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/7666-3
00:27:11.214 --> 00:27:14.517
workers under another company
name into the construction

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/7666-4
00:27:14.517 --> 00:27:17.414
sector in the UK, but
fortunately our slavery and

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/7666-5
00:27:17.414 --> 00:27:20.833
trafficking risk order would
prohibit them from doing that

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/7666-6
00:27:20.833 --> 00:27:24.078
and they commit another offense
which is arrestable and

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/7666-7
00:27:24.078 --> 00:27:27.207
imprisonable in the UK. So
that's another part of the

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/7666-8
00:27:27.207 --> 00:27:30.973
investigation that's continuing.
They clearly, as with all these

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00:27:30.973 --> 00:27:33.291
things, there are some learning
points.

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00:27:34.011 --> 00:27:37.610
For the GLAA you know and other
agencies, particularly about

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00:27:37.610 --> 00:27:41.328
strengthening the kind of visa
schemes due diligence, you know

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/7721-2
00:27:41.328 --> 00:27:44.633
by recruitment agencies, not
forgetting to look further

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/7721-3
00:27:44.633 --> 00:27:48.292
upstream and ensuring yourselves
that the kind of workers are

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/7721-4
00:27:48.292 --> 00:27:52.010
being sourced ethically and not
subject to unwarranted kind of

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/7721-5
00:27:52.010 --> 00:27:54.371
demands and many cases and
threats and.

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00:27:55.221 --> 00:27:59.291
The imposition of significant
financial burdens.

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00:28:00.571 --> 00:28:04.332
What more can we do about worker
engagement on arrival, meeting

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00:28:04.332 --> 00:28:07.741
and greeting, we did a pilot
last year and we're gonna do

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00:28:07.741 --> 00:28:11.327
some more work this year about
meeting a greeting. So rather

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00:28:11.327 --> 00:28:14.853
than waiting for workers to
arrive at their workplace, what

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00:28:14.853 --> 00:28:18.497
more can we do at the border to
try and uncover some of these

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/7788-5
00:28:18.497 --> 00:28:21.906
issues early so we can intervene
really early in terms of

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00:28:21.906 --> 00:28:22.671
safeguarding?

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00:28:23.831 --> 00:28:27.699
And and also fills the use of an
alternative sanction. You know,

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00:28:27.699 --> 00:28:31.508
using slavery trafficking risk
orders, not just prosecution has

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00:28:31.508 --> 00:28:35.197
been really successful for us.
So that's all I've got to kind

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00:28:35.197 --> 00:28:36.031
of say really.

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00:28:37.251 --> 00:28:38.771
And I I'm open up to questions.

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00:28:39.881 --> 00:28:44.215
And thank you very much. And so
there are some questions in the

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00:28:44.215 --> 00:28:48.345
chat for you and you want me to
read, I'll read them out for

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00:28:47.481 --> 00:28:48.071
OK.

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/7877-2
00:28:48.345 --> 00:28:52.138
you. Yeah. Were these workers
entering the UK under the

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/7877-3
00:28:52.138 --> 00:28:56.472
seasonal worker scheme? And if
so, what operator were adept and

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/7877-4
00:28:56.472 --> 00:28:57.691
agile working for?

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00:28:57.401 --> 00:29:00.908
No, they, they, they were. They
were entering the UK and the

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/7911-1
00:29:00.908 --> 00:29:04.529
skilled workers visa scheme. So
and and there are a few on the

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00:29:04.529 --> 00:29:08.094
seasonal workers scheme. But as
I said I can't I don't really

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00:29:08.094 --> 00:29:11.428
wanna name the operators because
this is still an ongoing

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/7911-4
00:29:11.428 --> 00:29:12.751
criminal investigation.

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00:29:13.221 --> 00:29:16.689
OK. And that's that's super.
Thank you very much. And there

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00:29:16.689 --> 00:29:19.927
are no more questions in the
chat, but if anybody's got

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/7970-2
00:29:19.927 --> 00:29:23.453
further questions that that
they're sort of cogitating on as

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/7970-3
00:29:23.453 --> 00:29:27.038
we go through the presentation
app, Peter, we've got one from

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/7970-4
00:29:27.038 --> 00:29:30.564
Peter from Flex. And do we know
if the Nepalese workers have

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/7970-5
00:29:30.564 --> 00:29:34.091
received any form of redress at
this stage or is it at what?

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8032-0
00:29:33.641 --> 00:29:37.739
Yeah. Yeah, Peter, we've, we've
we've recovered a significant

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8032-1
00:29:37.739 --> 00:29:41.572
amount of money £275,000 that
we've managed to recompense

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8032-2
00:29:41.572 --> 00:29:45.538
those workers with. And there
are we we think that there is

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00:29:45.538 --> 00:29:49.570
probably a similar amount of
money that we still we're still

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8032-4
00:29:49.570 --> 00:29:53.338
in negotiation with some UK
businesses about some of the

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8032-5
00:29:53.338 --> 00:29:57.304
additional fees that they,
they've kind of levied. And so I

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8032-6
00:29:57.304 --> 00:29:57.701
think.

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00:29:58.601 --> 00:30:01.671
I think all the money that they
were, they were left the

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8082-1
00:30:01.671 --> 00:30:04.742
additional money they were
levered in the UK they did or

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8082-2
00:30:04.742 --> 00:30:08.137
5000 will get back for them. And
then then it will be an issue

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8082-3
00:30:08.137 --> 00:30:11.423
for once we get to the kind of
question of prosecution about

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8082-4
00:30:11.423 --> 00:30:14.871
whether there is further redress
that we can get for them about

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8082-5
00:30:14.871 --> 00:30:16.811
the money that was levied in
Nepal.

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00:30:18.481 --> 00:30:22.267
OK, umm, there's another
question here. UM, uh, what is

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8109-1
00:30:22.267 --> 00:30:26.392
the role of the GLAA, if any,
when the Home Office is having

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8109-2
00:30:26.392 --> 00:30:30.314
conversations about revoking or
suspending the licence of

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8109-3
00:30:30.314 --> 00:30:30.991
operators?

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8111-0
00:30:31.901 --> 00:30:32.341
We.

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00:30:32.421 --> 00:30:35.927
But not not in this, not in this
case, but if I move it in

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8157-1
00:30:35.927 --> 00:30:39.670
another area that I'm working
quite heavily with. So in in the

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8157-2
00:30:39.670 --> 00:30:43.176
care sector where we've got some
similar problems with not

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8157-3
00:30:43.176 --> 00:30:46.861
seasonal worker visa scheme, but
skilled worker visa schemes,

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8157-4
00:30:46.861 --> 00:30:48.941
we've got a multi agency
approach.

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8204-0
00:30:49.781 --> 00:30:54.361
Uh, you know, with a sponsor and
assurance team and you know from

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8204-1
00:30:54.361 --> 00:30:58.385
UKVI. So. So we are we are
having conversations with them

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8204-2
00:30:58.385 --> 00:31:02.896
about businesses that we suspect
are kind of breaching the terms

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8204-3
00:31:02.896 --> 00:31:06.643
of their, their kind of
sponsorship license. And UKVI

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8204-4
00:31:06.643 --> 00:31:10.391
have taken a fairly robust
approach about suspending.

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8264-0
00:31:11.301 --> 00:31:15.111
Very, very quickly, in the first
instance and then conducting

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8264-1
00:31:15.111 --> 00:31:18.921
their investigation. So so in
the care sector, they suspended

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00:31:18.921 --> 00:31:22.793
49 / a six week period at the
back end of last year and end up

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8264-3
00:31:22.793 --> 00:31:26.542
revoking about half of those. So
it is a kind of a joined up

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8264-4
00:31:26.542 --> 00:31:30.290
approach with a kind of other
enforcement bodies and touches

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8264-5
00:31:30.290 --> 00:31:34.101
on what Julia mentioned about
the new strategy going forward.

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8332-0
00:31:34.611 --> 00:31:38.058
OK, thanks. In I've just got two
more questions and then I'm

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8332-1
00:31:38.058 --> 00:31:41.731
gonna have to draw it to a close
because I'm conscious we've got

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8332-2
00:31:41.731 --> 00:31:45.122
quite a lot more to go. So I
will come back to questions at

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8332-3
00:31:45.122 --> 00:31:48.569
the end if we've got time. So a
question from so even if you

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8308-0
00:31:46.291 --> 00:31:46.781
OK.

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8332-4
00:31:48.569 --> 00:31:51.621
could just keep your answers
brief, sorry to be a bit

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8323-0
00:31:51.531 --> 00:31:51.911
Mm-hmm.

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8332-5
00:31:51.621 --> 00:31:52.921
schoolmarmish with you.

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8331-0
00:31:52.831 --> 00:31:53.781
That's OK, no.

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8346-0
00:31:54.701 --> 00:31:59.450
So a question from Steve Mercer
saying that it's taking a long

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8346-1
00:31:59.450 --> 00:32:01.411
time to get to this point.

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8386-0
00:32:02.171 --> 00:32:05.277
Well, I'm not sure. I'm not sure
it really Tony in it. It's only

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8386-1
00:32:05.277 --> 00:32:08.001
came. It's only came to light
in, in, in August 2022. We

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8386-2
00:32:08.001 --> 00:32:10.773
clearly can't get the slavery
and trafficking risk orders

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8386-3
00:32:10.773 --> 00:32:13.783
unless we've got the evidence
ready to go to court to get that

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8386-4
00:32:13.783 --> 00:32:15.791
and it's something we're not
done before.

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8421-0
00:32:16.491 --> 00:32:21.195
OK, thanks. Thanks. In so, so,
uh and then a question from from

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8421-1
00:32:21.195 --> 00:32:25.900
Kelly Shields were the Nepalese
workers implicated in the fresh

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8421-2
00:32:25.900 --> 00:32:30.384
produce seasonal worker sector
last year linked to anyway in

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8421-3
00:32:30.384 --> 00:32:33.031
this LinkedIn any way to this
case?

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8425-0
00:32:33.241 --> 00:32:34.251
I don't think so.

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8459-0
00:32:34.451 --> 00:32:38.979
We don't think so, and the final
one, which point what should end

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8459-1
00:32:38.979 --> 00:32:43.095
point? Use a. What should that
endpoint user business? What

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8459-2
00:32:43.095 --> 00:32:46.869
should endpoints user business
do to counter potential

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8459-3
00:32:46.869 --> 00:32:47.761
exploitation?

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8495-0
00:32:47.441 --> 00:32:50.630
Well, I think I think there's a
bit there about, you know, their

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8495-1
00:32:50.630 --> 00:32:53.769
due diligence that we've already
talked about and also engaging

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8495-2
00:32:53.769 --> 00:32:57.008
with the kind of workers really,
really early about their journey

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8495-3
00:32:57.008 --> 00:33:00.000
here. So if there is anything
that we can we can respond and

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8495-4
00:33:00.000 --> 00:33:01.031
react really quickly.

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8571-0
00:33:02.111 --> 00:33:06.070
OK, super. Ian, thank you very
much. Just to say people, if you

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8571-1
00:33:06.070 --> 00:33:09.905
would like to just pop any more
questions in the chat, we can

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8571-2
00:33:09.905 --> 00:33:13.740
come back to them later on. But
in that was super interesting

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8571-3
00:33:13.740 --> 00:33:17.761
and I think it's a really great
example of the sort of core work

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8571-4
00:33:17.761 --> 00:33:21.596
that the GLA does. As you said,
the sort of joined up working

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8571-5
00:33:21.596 --> 00:33:24.999
between enforcements and
licensing really delivering a

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8571-6
00:33:24.999 --> 00:33:28.772
good result and bang on in terms
of the the new strategy. So

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8571-7
00:33:28.772 --> 00:33:30.381
thank you very, very much.

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8582-0
00:33:29.821 --> 00:33:33.185
Yes and sorry, sorry about the
camera, but I probably saved you

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8582-1
00:33:33.185 --> 00:33:33.711
all today.

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8611-0
00:33:33.561 --> 00:33:37.286
Don't worry and we'll we'll,
we'll forgive you. So gonna hand

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8611-1
00:33:37.286 --> 00:33:41.072
over it to Sam now, Sam, you're
gonna take us through the work

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8611-2
00:33:41.072 --> 00:33:44.798
that we've been doing on the
control strategy and at the role

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8611-3
00:33:44.798 --> 00:33:46.241
of and and intelligence.

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8620-0
00:33:46.981 --> 00:33:50.681
Yes, thank you and hello
everybody. It's nice to be here.

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8630-0
00:33:51.281 --> 00:33:57.151
And so, first of all, if I have,
I got control.

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8636-0
00:33:58.951 --> 00:34:00.461
And then it's not moving on.

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8649-0
00:34:05.711 --> 00:34:09.243
Well, that's fine. I don't think
it's working. I can't slip

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8649-1
00:34:09.243 --> 00:34:09.891
forward on.

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8657-0
00:34:13.781 --> 00:34:15.775
OK, I'm going to stop
controlling cut. Oh, there we

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8657-1
00:34:15.775 --> 00:34:15.891
go.

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8672-0
00:34:16.551 --> 00:34:21.476
And so, yeah, just to set the
set, the C and the control

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8672-1
00:34:21.476 --> 00:34:24.501
strategy for is, it sets out
what?

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8704-0
00:34:25.261 --> 00:34:29.091
The operational priorities are
for the GLAA. We have a a lot of

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8704-1
00:34:29.091 --> 00:34:32.622
information that comes through
to us and we're a small but

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8704-2
00:34:32.622 --> 00:34:36.273
mighty team, but we still need
to be able to prioritize what

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8704-3
00:34:36.273 --> 00:34:37.111
comes into us.

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8728-0
00:34:37.711 --> 00:34:41.822
And so it it does set that long
term priorities. It tells us why

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8728-1
00:34:41.822 --> 00:34:45.300
we should be focusing with
regards to our intelligence

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8728-2
00:34:45.300 --> 00:34:47.641
resources and enforcement
resources.

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8808-0
00:34:48.421 --> 00:34:52.267
What it doesn't do is it doesn't
say you won't look at this case,

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8808-1
00:34:52.267 --> 00:34:55.589
but what it does is it enables
us to understand what the

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8808-2
00:34:55.589 --> 00:34:59.261
biggest risk and threats are to
our organization and documents

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8808-3
00:34:59.261 --> 00:35:02.292
that clearly for the whole
organization. So we know

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8808-4
00:35:02.292 --> 00:35:05.905
consistently how we should work
together and it enables us to

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8808-5
00:35:05.905 --> 00:35:09.285
say if we've got lots and lots
of cases in, if there is a

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8808-6
00:35:09.285 --> 00:35:12.782
competition between resources,
we can say well, this is the

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8808-7
00:35:12.782 --> 00:35:16.221
priority, this is the higher
risk for it. So we can we can

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8808-8
00:35:16.221 --> 00:35:18.611
make those decisions really
effectively.

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8814-0
00:35:19.341 --> 00:35:21.801
And let me see if that is.

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8827-0
00:35:23.541 --> 00:35:27.064
I think I've taken control of
somebody else's computer screen,

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8827-1
00:35:27.064 --> 00:35:28.631
so there is a massive delay.

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8846-0
00:35:30.771 --> 00:35:34.711
So this is our control strategy.
We have four key areas. The

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8846-1
00:35:34.711 --> 00:35:37.941
first one is around forced and
compulsory labour.

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8880-0
00:35:40.181 --> 00:35:43.883
The first one is around forced
and compulsory labour in high

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8880-1
00:35:43.883 --> 00:35:47.827
risk sectors and we've got three
key areas that we look at here.

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8880-2
00:35:47.827 --> 00:35:51.651
The first one is agriculture,
the second one is care homes and

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8880-3
00:35:51.651 --> 00:35:53.411
the third one is car washers.

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8918-0
00:35:54.391 --> 00:35:58.461
And the second area is harm and
exploitation of shellfish

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8918-1
00:35:58.461 --> 00:36:02.672
gatherers, and we're really keen
on this one at the moment,

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8918-2
00:36:02.672 --> 00:36:07.094
particularly given our history.
But what we want to be able to

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8918-3
00:36:07.094 --> 00:36:09.621
do is really identify all the
hard.

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8925-0
00:36:11.081 --> 00:36:12.851
All the different areas that we
can.

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8956-0
00:36:13.711 --> 00:36:16.860
Uh, reach out into this sector
to prevent to raise awareness,

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8956-1
00:36:16.860 --> 00:36:19.959
to really understand that sector
because it might be that in

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8956-2
00:36:19.959 --> 00:36:23.007
future that this turns into
business as usual and we have a

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8956-3
00:36:23.007 --> 00:36:25.141
different approach to this going
forward.

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8999-0
00:36:25.761 --> 00:36:30.157
And the third one is around
umbrella companies exploiting

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8999-1
00:36:30.157 --> 00:36:34.782
workers, and that obviously
affects our regulated sector and

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8999-2
00:36:34.782 --> 00:36:39.178
the last one is exploiting
workers who come into the come

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8999-3
00:36:39.178 --> 00:36:43.803
into our sector through the
seasonal worker scheme. So there

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/8999-4
00:36:43.803 --> 00:36:46.911
are four key priority areas and
we have.

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/9030-0
00:36:49.681 --> 00:36:53.188
A process in place that will
enable us to manage all the

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/9030-1
00:36:53.188 --> 00:36:57.127
information that comes in around
these different areas and that

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/9030-2
00:36:57.127 --> 00:37:00.881
we can make collaborative and
collective decisions regarding

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/9030-3
00:37:00.881 --> 00:37:02.051
how we tackle this.

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/9034-0
00:37:03.281 --> 00:37:04.191
Sending a message.

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/9057-0
00:37:05.491 --> 00:37:08.517
I think you I don't know if you
can hear. It is clearly through

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/9057-1
00:37:08.517 --> 00:37:11.307
the laptop as we can in the
office, but I'm sorry that was

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/9057-2
00:37:11.307 --> 00:37:12.111
the sandwich fan.

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/9071-0
00:37:12.571 --> 00:37:18.927
I'm so yeah, we have. So we have
a process in place whereby we

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/9071-1
00:37:18.927 --> 00:37:19.331
can.

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/9101-0
00:37:21.251 --> 00:37:24.717
Really hone into these different
key priority areas and really

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/9101-1
00:37:24.717 --> 00:37:28.183
understand what the risks and
issues are and what we can do to

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/9101-2
00:37:28.183 --> 00:37:31.760
to tackle it from a preventative
point of view, but also from an

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/9101-3
00:37:31.760 --> 00:37:33.191
operational point of view.

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/9124-0
00:37:33.781 --> 00:37:37.139
And well, I'm not moving on to
the next slide. Katherine, can

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/9124-1
00:37:37.139 --> 00:37:40.660
you, if I stop control, it might
be easier for you to to just do

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/9124-2
00:37:40.660 --> 00:37:40.931
that.

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/9130-0
00:37:41.821 --> 00:37:43.751
You move on to the next slide,
please, Katherine.

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/9132-0
00:37:47.861 --> 00:37:48.551
So.

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/9138-0
00:37:49.371 --> 00:37:50.581
Is that just go back one?

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/9145-0
00:37:52.781 --> 00:37:54.511
And come on. Oh, no, you're
right, Karen. Sorry.

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/9173-0
00:37:56.411 --> 00:38:00.828
So the control strategy is had a
fundamental influence on the

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/9173-1
00:38:00.828 --> 00:38:05.388
organization. It really enables
a lot more collaboration across

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/9173-2
00:38:05.388 --> 00:38:08.381
the teams, reduces a lot of silo
working.

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/9250-0
00:38:08.911 --> 00:38:12.387
And it's also reduced self self
tasking and increased

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/9250-1
00:38:12.387 --> 00:38:16.507
consistency. So what we now have
is plan owners that cover each

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/9250-2
00:38:16.507 --> 00:38:20.305
of those four areas and they are
operational leads who are

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/9250-3
00:38:20.305 --> 00:38:23.911
experts in the field and they
work across teams, across

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/9250-4
00:38:23.911 --> 00:38:28.031
disciplines and to pull together
a a broad picture that affects

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/9250-5
00:38:28.031 --> 00:38:31.958
the whole organisation about
what these issues are. So it is

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/9250-6
00:38:31.958 --> 00:38:36.014
definitely increased consistency
and that communication around

a3bded0c-76df-420f-9a6f-a92d569431d3/9250-7
00:38:36.014 --> 00:38:39.941
how we, how we tackle some of
the issues that we're finding.

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And and you know, we've had some
really good innovative ideas

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coming from that as well.

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And we have much better
prioritization. As I mentioned

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earlier, we are a small but
mighty team and we have a lot of

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information coming into us. So
being able to pick out and also

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00:38:54.876 --> 00:38:58.162
to explain to you know our key
partners that actually this is

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the area that we need to focus
on has been really fundamental.

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And and we have much deeper and
relevant insights now having our

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plan owners in place has really,
really helped highlight some of

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the nuances in some of the
issues that we've found and that

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has massively enabled our
decision making. If we can move

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on, please Katherine.

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So in practice this is a.

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A big process in our
organization and it it does

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drive drive the operational side
and so we have our analysts

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involved in this, developing our
intelligence overview and I'll

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come on later about why
intelligence is so important.

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But if you just bear in mind at
the minute that this is the

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first point. So as the
intelligence comes in, our

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00:39:44.920 --> 00:39:48.519
analysts will be able to analyze
it and give a picture of where

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we are with these key priority
areas and also identify if there

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are any emerging trends that we
need to start looking at.

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And and they will develop that
into a product that the plan

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00:40:00.246 --> 00:40:04.682
owners can then use to look at
how they need to flex and react

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00:40:04.682 --> 00:40:09.118
and respond to those issues or
new trends that might have come

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in ready for the next period.

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We have a lot of engagement
where we're having pre meets and

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00:40:15.907 --> 00:40:19.899
talking about what gaps we need
to fill and how we prioritize

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00:40:19.899 --> 00:40:23.890
some of that work and then we
have a monthly task in meeting.

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00:40:23.890 --> 00:40:27.817
So all the work that goes on
before it lands at that tasking

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00:40:27.817 --> 00:40:31.421
meeting where we have a
multidisciplinary team and that

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workflow flows through. So we're
able to identify what resources

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00:40:35.606 --> 00:40:39.597
we need. We can shift people
around and we can make decisions

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on on what activities we need to
do, where, when and how.

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But ultimately, what's what's
really effective about this

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00:40:46.860 --> 00:40:50.163
control strategy and tasking
process is that we can then look

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00:40:50.163 --> 00:40:53.466
back. So where we've requested
resources and where we've done

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00:40:53.466 --> 00:40:56.768
delivered some activity in the
follow up meeting. We can then

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00:40:56.768 --> 00:41:00.071
look at well what was effective,
what worked, what didn't and

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00:41:00.071 --> 00:41:03.054
having all of that information
puts us in a really good

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position. We are expanding our
own knowledge, which again in

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00:41:06.303 --> 00:41:09.659
turn will assist our partners,
you know cause we can share all

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00:41:09.659 --> 00:41:12.696
that knowledge back, our lessons
learned and what's been

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00:41:12.696 --> 00:41:14.081
effective and what hasn't.

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And next slide please.

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So why we've seen this come to
life? Uh, we've been doing some

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work around the seasonal worker
scheme and this is one of the

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00:41:26.170 --> 00:41:29.874
innovative ideas that have come
out looking at how we can do

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00:41:29.874 --> 00:41:33.396
meet and greets so we can do
some really early prevention

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00:41:33.396 --> 00:41:36.796
initiatives to help people
who've come in on the scheme

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00:41:36.796 --> 00:41:39.711
look at, you know, what their
role, what their.

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00:41:41.781 --> 00:41:45.330
What's it rights are and what
they need to look out for, how

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they can be supported and who
they need to contact. We've got

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00:41:48.938 --> 00:41:52.605
operational names which really
helps with when we're doing our

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intelligence, we're able to see
what intelligence we've got per

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00:41:56.329 --> 00:41:59.763
threat area. So again, we're
have a much broader knowledge

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00:41:59.763 --> 00:42:02.731
base and again makes it much
easier to to analyze.

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00:42:03.751 --> 00:42:07.091
We've been tasking out subject
profiles, so we've got a lot

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00:42:07.091 --> 00:42:10.598
better analytical support and
products on that, which again in

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terms really helps with the
decision making and helps with

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00:42:13.883 --> 00:42:16.499
our understanding and
positioning around these

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00:42:16.499 --> 00:42:19.784
threats. And again, as I've
mentioned, being able to share

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00:42:19.784 --> 00:42:23.403
that information and empower the
partners that we work with with

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00:42:23.403 --> 00:42:26.854
the knowledge that we have has
been, you know it's it's now a

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00:42:26.854 --> 00:42:27.801
real opportunity.

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That ultimately this control
strategy, it pushed us into a

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00:42:32.809 --> 00:42:36.621
much greater Intel led space
than we've been before. So those

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00:42:36.621 --> 00:42:39.881
processes are really made us
that much more dynamic.

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00:42:40.691 --> 00:42:44.477
And I've mentioned Intel before
about the importance of it, but

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that really is the first point
in all of this happening. The

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00:42:48.085 --> 00:42:51.339
case study that earn went
through that came from Intel

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00:42:51.339 --> 00:42:54.947
that came into us and that is
the first part of things going

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00:42:54.947 --> 00:42:55.421
forward.

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So just moving on, please,
Katherine.

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So the control structure as I
mentioned before, it really

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00:43:03.463 --> 00:43:07.115
assists with the decision making
how we resource our allocate,

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00:43:07.115 --> 00:43:10.768
how we allocate our different
resources, how we understand how

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00:43:10.768 --> 00:43:14.072
much things cost, what's the
benefit of you know kind of

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00:43:14.072 --> 00:43:17.377
delivering an STRO against
prevention activity that is a

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00:43:17.377 --> 00:43:21.203
position that we are starting to
get in to be able to articulate.

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00:43:21.203 --> 00:43:24.566
And again, having those much
more collaborative decisions

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00:43:24.566 --> 00:43:27.986
going forward about where we
need to put our resources and

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00:43:27.986 --> 00:43:31.291
and what activity is gonna get
the best for our victims.

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00:43:31.521 --> 00:43:32.801
And I'll workers.

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At next slide, please,
Katherine.

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So good intelligence absolutely
matters. As I've mentioned

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00:43:40.917 --> 00:43:44.992
numerous Times Now, that is the
first point that is usually the

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00:43:44.992 --> 00:43:49.003
bit that starts off any activity
that we've got and we rely on

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00:43:49.003 --> 00:43:53.014
it. So we can we know where to
go. We know where to target our

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00:43:53.014 --> 00:43:53.651
resources.

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00:43:55.171 --> 00:43:58.681
We have quite a law enforcement.

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00:43:59.891 --> 00:44:00.511
Heavy.

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00:44:01.471 --> 00:44:04.379
Resource structure and lots of
people in our organisation

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00:44:04.379 --> 00:44:07.589
understand what intelligence is
and what information is and how

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00:44:07.589 --> 00:44:10.748
it needs to look and what we do
with it. But I appreciate that

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00:44:10.748 --> 00:44:13.657
not everybody does and I've
worked with lots of different

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00:44:13.657 --> 00:44:16.816
organizations in my time here
and you know, lots of people are

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00:44:16.816 --> 00:44:19.825
like, well, I don't. I don't
know what to tell you. I don't

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00:44:19.825 --> 00:44:21.781
know how to give you that
information.

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00:44:22.891 --> 00:44:26.054
But fundamentally, the
information to make it really

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00:44:26.054 --> 00:44:29.813
good and actionable for us so we
can take those next steps and

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00:44:29.813 --> 00:44:33.633
take it into uh, take it towards
some outcomes, we need to know

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00:44:33.633 --> 00:44:37.214
who you're talking about. We
need to know who else knows so

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00:44:37.214 --> 00:44:40.675
we can protect the source of
that information. We need to

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00:44:40.675 --> 00:44:44.256
know what's specifically has
raised those concerns for you.

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00:44:44.256 --> 00:44:48.016
What is it that you want us to
know that you think that we can

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00:44:48.016 --> 00:44:51.239
deal with? And I I'd ask you
there to think about the

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00:44:51.239 --> 00:44:54.581
offences that we have in the
regulated sector but also.

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00:44:54.701 --> 00:44:58.053
Where it's forced and compulsory
labour. So what specifically in

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00:44:58.053 --> 00:45:01.405
those categories is it that you
want us to look at? Where did it

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00:45:01.405 --> 00:45:04.035
happen? Do you have any
addresses? Do you have any

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00:45:04.035 --> 00:45:04.551
locations?

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00:45:05.221 --> 00:45:08.475
How did it happen? You know,
what was it that actually

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00:45:08.475 --> 00:45:11.670
physically caught your
attention? What were you doing

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00:45:11.670 --> 00:45:15.516
for you to uncover this and why
do you think it's happening? Why

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00:45:15.516 --> 00:45:18.830
do you think you know what
you're seeing or what you're

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00:45:18.830 --> 00:45:22.558
hearing is occurring so as much
information as possible and we

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00:45:22.558 --> 00:45:26.286
can protect you as a source. So
we're never gonna say ohh. You

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00:45:26.286 --> 00:45:30.191
know, Julia rung up and she told
us this it, you know, that's not

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00:45:30.191 --> 00:45:33.800
how it operates at all. And so
you can send that information

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00:45:33.800 --> 00:45:35.931
and we'll deal with it
sensitively.

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00:45:36.331 --> 00:45:39.581
And, but it's really important
that you put that that level of

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00:45:39.581 --> 00:45:42.935
information in there, that level
of detail. So we can take those

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00:45:42.935 --> 00:45:43.761
proactive steps.

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But as I said, I know that not
everybody understands what

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00:45:48.518 --> 00:45:51.985
intelligence is that we have
updated our website recently to

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00:45:51.985 --> 00:45:55.681
capture some of this information
and help give a little bit more

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00:45:55.681 --> 00:45:59.262
guidance on what is useful to us
and how you can help us to to

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00:45:59.262 --> 00:46:01.991
help the victims and workers
that we deal with.

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00:46:02.611 --> 00:46:06.439
And we've also just developed 6
intelligence explainer videos

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00:46:06.439 --> 00:46:07.181
which cover.

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Lots of different topics about
what intelligence is, what our

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00:46:11.362 --> 00:46:14.982
remit is, how you should report.
You know, some of the things you

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00:46:14.982 --> 00:46:18.329
should be looking out for and
they will be uploaded onto our

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00:46:18.329 --> 00:46:21.455
website soon and you can
download them. You can use them

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00:46:21.455 --> 00:46:25.021
in inductions. You can have them
on your own website and you can

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00:46:25.021 --> 00:46:28.477
do what you like with them. It
just really helps you know what

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00:46:28.477 --> 00:46:31.659
to look out for and how to
report to it. So I do have one

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00:46:31.659 --> 00:46:34.950
of those videos that I would
like to show you. It's a short

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00:46:34.950 --> 00:46:38.351
one. It's just under 3 minutes
and I'm really hopeful that it

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00:46:38.351 --> 00:46:38.681
plays.

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And.

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I think, Katherine, you might
need to change the setting on

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00:46:48.593 --> 00:46:50.421
teams to be using computer.

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00:46:51.691 --> 00:46:52.561
Sounds.

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00:46:52.971 --> 00:46:56.529
Sam, can I suggest I'm just a
bit concerned about time. Could

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Yep.

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OK.

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we could we come back to the
video at the end once we've got

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Yeah, sure.

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what once we've got it working,
would that be OK?

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00:47:02.931 --> 00:47:03.671
Yeah, sure, yeah.

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Yeah. Yeah. OK. Alright. Thank
you. So we haven't, we haven't

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00:47:07.696 --> 00:47:11.246
had any questions but I are
there does if anybody has got

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00:47:11.246 --> 00:47:14.919
any questions please do just
drop them in in the chat. Sam,

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00:47:14.919 --> 00:47:17.551
is there anything you want to
conclude by?

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00:47:19.711 --> 00:47:22.660
No, I think as I say, we will be
shouting loud and proud about

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00:47:22.660 --> 00:47:25.703
these videos and pleased to use
them. And if you've got any, you

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00:47:25.703 --> 00:47:28.418
know, concerns or anything,
please do get in touch. It's,

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00:47:28.418 --> 00:47:30.151
it's your intelligence that
matters.

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00:47:30.851 --> 00:47:35.533
Yeah, OK. I mean, that's the big
take away for me here is is, is,

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00:47:35.533 --> 00:47:39.861
is we really wanna work on uh,
work work on the intelligence

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00:47:39.861 --> 00:47:43.834
that's provided. But to make it
actionable we need real

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00:47:43.834 --> 00:47:47.736
specifics to help to help
provide the starting for our

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00:47:47.736 --> 00:47:52.347
actions and so thank Sam. Thank
you very much. The videos are on

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00:47:52.347 --> 00:47:56.888
the GLAA website or will be on
the GLA website. Yeah there will

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00:47:54.301 --> 00:47:56.301
There will be seeing. Yeah. Not
quite yet.

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00:47:56.888 --> 00:48:00.081
be yeah they will be on the GLA
website. OK.

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Thanks. Umm, we just actually
just had a a message in from

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00:48:05.666 --> 00:48:10.247
Peter. UM, is there anything
being done to establish secure

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00:48:10.247 --> 00:48:11.851
reporting strategies?

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And I not sharing immigration
status information with the Home

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00:48:16.750 --> 00:48:19.821
Office to encourage workers to
come forward.

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That we have.

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We if somebody reports into it
and we identify our worker or a

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00:48:29.158 --> 00:48:33.605
victim and they their status,
you know they are, they are here

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00:48:33.605 --> 00:48:34.311
illegally.

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We don't report back and say
this person is here illegally,

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00:48:39.157 --> 00:48:43.282
we don't share those victim
details with immigration at all.

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00:48:43.282 --> 00:48:47.001
We will share intelligence that
would say potentially.

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00:48:47.251 --> 00:48:52.191
And you know, this organization
is hiring illegal workers, but

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00:48:52.191 --> 00:48:56.817
absolutely we are not saying
this person is is moving, you

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00:48:56.817 --> 00:49:00.581
know is here illegally. We we we
don't do that.

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00:49:01.301 --> 00:49:04.903
OK, that's helpful. Thank you
very much, Sam. OK. Alright. So

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00:49:04.903 --> 00:49:08.505
as to say if people would like
to leave any further questions

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00:49:08.505 --> 00:49:11.874
that would be great. Sam. Thank
you very much. And I know

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00:49:11.874 --> 00:49:15.418
there's huge amount of work
being done in in intelligence to

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00:49:15.418 --> 00:49:18.846
move us into a more effective
place and I think it's quite

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00:49:18.846 --> 00:49:22.332
exciting. So thank you for your
work and thank you for your

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00:49:22.332 --> 00:49:22.971
teams work.

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And I just want to now introduce
Keith if if I, if I may, Keith.

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00:49:28.888 --> 00:49:29.381
Hello.

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Hello Julia.

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Hi. Hi. And we're just I just
want to be aware of of of time a

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00:49:36.545 --> 00:49:40.447
little bit and we have got a
little bit of wiggle room at the

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00:49:40.447 --> 00:49:44.349
end. But if if if if we can just
keep it to the point, I'd be

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00:49:44.349 --> 00:49:46.741
really grateful. Thank you very
much.

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Yes, absolutely and good, good
morning everyone. I'm so I I'm.

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I'm really pleased to be
speaking here today to you all.

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My thanks GLAA for the
introduction. It's a fascinating

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00:49:58.879 --> 00:50:02.660
time for our labour market
coming only a month or so after

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00:50:02.660 --> 00:50:06.697
the back to work budget. We've
got some significant challenges

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00:50:06.697 --> 00:50:10.157
in the UK to balance like
driving UK growth, but also

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00:50:10.157 --> 00:50:14.195
balancing the challenge of of of
high vacancies in activity in

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00:50:14.195 --> 00:50:17.911
the unique sort of challenges to
work rights that this is

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00:50:17.911 --> 00:50:20.411
bringing about as we've already
heard.

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For me, and in terms of
international recruitment being

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00:50:23.305 --> 00:50:26.060
wrong and I have a broader
interest in labour markets,

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00:50:26.060 --> 00:50:28.515
Julia has done the
introductions. I won't repeat

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that. I've got a broader
introduction in interest in

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00:50:31.169 --> 00:50:34.174
labour markets, including I was
on the ministerial advisory

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00:50:34.174 --> 00:50:37.130
panel to the Taylor Review and
I've done a number of other

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00:50:37.130 --> 00:50:37.681
things too.

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So what's attack? What's the
issue that jobs aware are here

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00:50:42.951 --> 00:50:46.754
to to tackle? Well, our, our
labour market and world of work

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00:50:46.754 --> 00:50:50.557
is changing. Uh, we're seeing an
advancement of the platform

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00:50:50.557 --> 00:50:54.547
isation of the jobs markets and
more digital coming into to the

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00:50:54.547 --> 00:50:58.101
supply chains. That's doing a
number of things like it's

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00:50:58.101 --> 00:51:01.530
increasing the threat of
offshoring for intermediaries

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00:51:01.530 --> 00:51:05.333
like recruitment agencies, for
example. Now that recruitment

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00:51:05.333 --> 00:51:09.136
agencies can hire completely
digitally what's the future for

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00:51:09.136 --> 00:51:10.321
some virtual style.

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00:51:10.521 --> 00:51:14.309
Recruitment operators that that
is really gonna challenge the

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00:51:14.309 --> 00:51:17.975
way we think about enforcement
and and regulation. So we're

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00:51:17.975 --> 00:51:21.947
really we're really tackling the
the issue of a changing dynamic

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00:51:21.947 --> 00:51:25.246
labour market in particular
focusing quite heavily on

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00:51:25.246 --> 00:51:28.485
online. There was recent
research published by Ofcom

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00:51:28.485 --> 00:51:32.212
ahead of the online safety bill
which showed that off the 43

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00:51:32.212 --> 00:51:32.701
million.

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00:51:33.621 --> 00:51:37.248
And UK adults who interact
online, as many as what almost

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00:51:37.248 --> 00:51:40.875
one in three. So 30% had
declared as part of the research

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00:51:40.875 --> 00:51:44.690
that they had experienced some
kind of fake employment scam,

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00:51:44.690 --> 00:51:46.191
which is, which is huge.

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00:51:48.831 --> 00:51:52.662
The rise in recruitment scams is
is, I think, for a number of

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00:51:52.662 --> 00:51:56.432
reasons. We're seeing far more
digital journeys now, so it's

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00:51:56.432 --> 00:51:59.521
easier to lure people in. Ian
talked about the uh

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00:51:59.521 --> 00:52:03.106
international recruitment case
study in particular, we're

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00:52:03.106 --> 00:52:06.752
seeing a lot of international
recruitment type scams where

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00:52:06.752 --> 00:52:10.336
people these days are expecting
to be hired and onboarded

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00:52:10.336 --> 00:52:13.797
digitally, which is making it
easier for fraudsters and

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00:52:13.797 --> 00:52:17.257
scammers to to perpetrate these
sorts of these sorts of

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00:52:17.257 --> 00:52:18.061
misdemeanors.

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00:52:18.801 --> 00:52:21.794
In terms of the the the uh
online recruitment issues

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00:52:21.794 --> 00:52:25.013
themselves, they actually
facilitate a whole broad range

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00:52:25.013 --> 00:52:28.628
of labour market abuses. So at
one level you've got things like

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00:52:28.628 --> 00:52:31.847
ID theft, you know the the
simple job seeker thinks they

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00:52:31.847 --> 00:52:35.292
need to share their personal
details and bank details to get

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00:52:35.292 --> 00:52:38.568
a job. You've got lots of money,
job seekers, charged for

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00:52:38.568 --> 00:52:39.641
training equipment.

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And various other things like
background checks, but also we

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00:52:44.909 --> 00:52:48.514
see things like money
laundering, people being tricked

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00:52:48.514 --> 00:52:52.578
into fake recruitment, sorry,
fake employment, which actually

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00:52:52.578 --> 00:52:56.839
is a form of money laundering as
they move money around and also

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00:52:56.839 --> 00:53:00.444
modern slavery. We do see the
online job adverts are a

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00:53:00.444 --> 00:53:04.508
facilitator into modern slavery
as as well. So this is really

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00:53:04.508 --> 00:53:08.375
the the sort of centre to our
our, our our journey and the

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00:53:08.375 --> 00:53:10.211
issues that we are tackling.

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00:53:10.351 --> 00:53:14.963
So, so who are jobs aware then?
And what are we doing about this

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00:53:14.963 --> 00:53:18.299
rise in in, in online
recruitment scams? So on

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00:53:18.299 --> 00:53:22.841
Jobsaware was originally set up
by the Metropolitan Police as a

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00:53:22.841 --> 00:53:27.312
as a fraud forum to tackle the
growing issue of criminality in

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00:53:27.312 --> 00:53:31.073
recruitment supply chains
because of its success. It

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00:53:31.073 --> 00:53:35.544
ultimately became a community
interest company and set out and

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00:53:35.544 --> 00:53:39.731
its own direction with cross
government support, including

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00:53:39.731 --> 00:53:40.441
HMRC, DBT.

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00:53:40.521 --> 00:53:44.384
As they are now and other
government departments, uh, we

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00:53:44.384 --> 00:53:48.315
have helped over 3,000,000
workers and work seekers since

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00:53:48.315 --> 00:53:52.517
we started over over 10 years
ago and that's that scaling all

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00:53:52.517 --> 00:53:56.651
the time. One of our claims to
fame is we were recognised as

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00:53:56.651 --> 00:54:00.921
community leaders at Buckingham
Palace a few years ago. By the

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00:54:00.921 --> 00:54:02.751
late Her Majesty the Queen.

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00:54:04.591 --> 00:54:07.849
So specifically, then what?
What? What sort of can you

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00:54:07.849 --> 00:54:11.404
expect from from? From jobs?
Where, who, who, who are they?

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00:54:11.404 --> 00:54:11.701
Well.

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00:54:12.411 --> 00:54:16.823
What jobs aware as primarily uh
doing is trying to reach through

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00:54:16.823 --> 00:54:20.896
supply chains to help work
seekers and workers in in in non

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00:54:20.896 --> 00:54:23.951
permanent work, particularly
through online.

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00:54:25.621 --> 00:54:30.145
Online portals, so currently
every day jobs aware appears on

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00:54:30.145 --> 00:54:34.743
nearly half a million online job
adverts that that's there so

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00:54:34.743 --> 00:54:39.415
that any work seeker applying
for those jobs can get free help

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00:54:39.415 --> 00:54:44.162
and advice. We currently appear
on on over 10,000 weekly worker

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00:54:44.162 --> 00:54:47.722
pay slips via a payment
intermediary. Companies

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00:54:47.722 --> 00:54:52.246
promoting free help and advice
to workers. And we're on over

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00:54:52.246 --> 00:54:54.471
250 recruitment platforms. So.

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00:54:54.581 --> 00:54:57.975
Predominantly recruitment
agencies, as well as a few other

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00:54:57.975 --> 00:55:01.714
types of intermediaries. All of
that is to is to is to share the

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00:55:01.714 --> 00:55:04.131
message to workers and work
seekers that.

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00:55:05.011 --> 00:55:08.781
Jobs aware is a free place for
them to get to help and advice.

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00:55:10.501 --> 00:55:14.302
We exist in the intersection
between uh workers, businesses

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00:55:14.302 --> 00:55:18.357
and UK government, so we we work
very closely with all three of

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00:55:18.357 --> 00:55:22.413
those groups to help develop the
work that we we do our work of

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00:55:22.413 --> 00:55:25.897
always platform, which is
essentially the website that

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00:55:25.897 --> 00:55:29.826
that hears from workers every
day about labour market abuses,

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00:55:29.826 --> 00:55:33.944
whether that's a fake job advert
they've applied for non payment

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00:55:33.944 --> 00:55:37.112
by recruitment agencies,
challenges they might be

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00:55:37.112 --> 00:55:40.661
experiencing throughout the
supply chain, they workers.

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00:55:40.741 --> 00:55:44.357
Use the site to also report
those suspected abuses, and then

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00:55:44.357 --> 00:55:48.092
and then jobs aware will triage
those reports, share them with

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00:55:48.092 --> 00:55:51.649
the appropriate enforcement
agency if there is one. Or, for

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00:55:51.649 --> 00:55:54.909
example, take down fake job
adverts online via the job

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00:55:54.909 --> 00:55:58.348
boards and work with trading
standards. Police and others

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00:55:58.348 --> 00:55:59.771
where where appropriate.

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00:56:00.781 --> 00:56:04.271
The business part of the program
we we partner with businesses

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00:56:04.271 --> 00:56:07.484
and that's so that end Hirers
can ensure their own supply

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00:56:07.484 --> 00:56:11.029
chains are partnered with jobs
aware and the purpose of that is

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00:56:11.029 --> 00:56:14.242
that an organization like a bank
can make sure that every

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00:56:14.242 --> 00:56:17.843
recruitment agency is partnered
with Jobs Aware which is free so

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00:56:17.843 --> 00:56:20.834
that any issues that they're
workers work seekers are

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00:56:20.834 --> 00:56:24.103
experiencing in that supply
chain gets reported through to

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00:56:24.103 --> 00:56:27.260
an independent party and
essentially that bank then gets

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00:56:27.260 --> 00:56:30.916
a sort of litmus test as to sort
of how ethical their recruitment

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00:56:30.916 --> 00:56:32.191
agency supply chain is.

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00:56:33.471 --> 00:56:37.025
Many hires used jobs aware as a
way of just promoting free help

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00:56:37.025 --> 00:56:40.080
and advice to their non
employees or their their wider

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00:56:40.080 --> 00:56:41.691
workers, if that makes sense.

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00:56:43.021 --> 00:56:47.210
But then you're saying that that
that, that intelligence and

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00:56:47.210 --> 00:56:51.605
workers and working closely with
businesses, we have formed a a

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00:56:51.605 --> 00:56:55.313
new piece of work called
collective regulation, which

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00:56:55.313 --> 00:56:59.227
identifies the threats through
work of voice and then Co

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00:56:59.227 --> 00:57:03.554
develop standards with industry
and regulators to help address

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00:57:03.554 --> 00:57:07.537
issues in the evolving labour
market. Our example, a very

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00:57:07.537 --> 00:57:11.726
clear example of this which is
coming up is the launch of an

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00:57:11.726 --> 00:57:13.031
online recruitment.

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00:57:13.771 --> 00:57:17.368
Newcastle credited scheme that
is launching in line with the

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00:57:17.368 --> 00:57:21.084
online safety bill to have job
boards uh raise their standards

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00:57:21.084 --> 00:57:24.800
in terms of monitoring online
job adverts. And that's just one

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00:57:24.800 --> 00:57:28.339
example. That's a pilot scheme
in online recruitment. We're

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00:57:28.339 --> 00:57:31.759
currently working with the
umbrella sector or the payment

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00:57:31.759 --> 00:57:35.416
intermediary sector modelling
agencies and many more as well,

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00:57:35.416 --> 00:57:38.896
using collective regulation as
an academic model, which is

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00:57:38.896 --> 00:57:42.199
which is code chaired by
Professor from Open University

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00:57:42.199 --> 00:57:43.261
to take in inputs.

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00:57:43.451 --> 00:57:47.294
Around business worker and sort
of government perspectives to

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00:57:47.294 --> 00:57:51.137
then use the model to develop
and propose uh schemes that are

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00:57:51.137 --> 00:57:54.361
most relevant for those parts of
the labour market.

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00:57:56.201 --> 00:57:59.653
In terms of referrals and
reports then and sort of what

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00:57:59.653 --> 00:58:03.043
jobs aware do on a more
day-to-day basis. So Jobsaware

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00:58:03.043 --> 00:58:06.618
receives reports daily from
workers and work seekers on a

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00:58:06.618 --> 00:58:10.502
range of issues. On average we
received between 5:00 and 10:00

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00:58:10.502 --> 00:58:14.324
reports a day this year so far.
Year to date we've seen a 52%

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00:58:14.324 --> 00:58:18.269
increase in reports compared to
last year. So it's it's been an

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00:58:18.269 --> 00:58:21.721
incredibly busy first sort of
four months those reports

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00:58:21.721 --> 00:58:25.419
everybody everybody who reports
a jobs aware gets free help

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00:58:25.419 --> 00:58:26.591
advice in response.

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00:58:26.981 --> 00:58:30.403
Ideally, the more people who
come to us before the issue has

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00:58:30.403 --> 00:58:33.882
happened, we can prevent before
it starts, particularly where

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00:58:33.882 --> 00:58:36.911
it's around. Questions of
legitimacy with recruitment

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00:58:36.911 --> 00:58:40.390
agencies or job boards, or the
type of paperwork they've been

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00:58:40.390 --> 00:58:43.868
issued, we we we want to get to
a stage in future where we're

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00:58:43.868 --> 00:58:47.010
able to prevent more than the
than the than sort of use

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00:58:47.010 --> 00:58:50.433
enforcement agencies because
people are coming to us earlier

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00:58:50.433 --> 00:58:51.331
in that process.

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00:58:52.151 --> 00:58:55.575
But as well as getting a free
response from jobs aware jobs

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00:58:55.575 --> 00:58:58.829
aware then where there is a
regulator, then triage those

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00:58:58.829 --> 00:59:02.425
reports and share them with with
regulators. And I've got some

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00:59:02.425 --> 00:59:06.079
statistics a bit later on as an
example of that, so that it's a

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00:59:06.079 --> 00:59:09.503
stream of intelligence going
into regulators. In some cases

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00:59:09.503 --> 00:59:13.100
there aren't regulators. So if
we're talking about online fake

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00:59:13.100 --> 00:59:16.582
job adverts for example, or
other parts of the labour market

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00:59:16.582 --> 00:59:20.349
where there isn't an enforcement
agency, we will then try trading

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00:59:20.349 --> 00:59:22.861
standards. Perhaps police. We've
had a few.

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00:59:23.131 --> 00:59:26.573
Trading standards and police
prosecutions over the years in

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00:59:26.573 --> 00:59:29.786
parts of labour market where
enforcement agencies don't

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00:59:29.786 --> 00:59:30.131
exist.

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00:59:31.391 --> 00:59:35.164
And Jobs aware referrals of
potential cases around 1 slavery

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00:59:35.164 --> 00:59:38.691
to the GLAA have also increased
this year, year to date.

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00:59:40.711 --> 00:59:44.252
Just a little more than around
that, that intersection of

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00:59:44.252 --> 00:59:48.099
worker, business, regulator and
collective regulation. This is

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00:59:48.099 --> 00:59:51.946
this is a visual example of how
how it works. So what we do is

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00:59:51.946 --> 00:59:55.366
we've segregated the labour
market or the non permanent

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00:59:55.366 --> 00:59:58.786
labour market into lots of
component parts like the gig

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00:59:58.786 --> 01:00:02.511
economy would be a good example
where the the there's not as

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01:00:02.511 --> 01:00:05.747
much regulation. So we'd
segregated into gig economy

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01:00:05.747 --> 01:00:09.655
payment intermediary recruitment
agencies so on and so forth we

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then.

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That we then bring in all of the
inputs and workers about the

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threats that they are facing,
what's happening to them. We

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then measure the measure, the
the maturity of the regulator

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and what I say when I say that
what I mean is in the gig

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01:00:23.851 --> 01:00:27.297
economy it's it's very low
because there isn't a regulator.

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01:00:27.297 --> 01:00:30.973
So it's more about whether there
is a regulator rather than the

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01:00:30.973 --> 01:00:34.707
actual actions of the regulator.
We then take on board the views

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01:00:34.707 --> 01:00:38.096
of business and we create
industry steering committees who

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01:00:38.096 --> 01:00:40.451
then engage on the challenges
they face.

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01:00:40.551 --> 01:00:44.255
Their responses to the threats
and how the academic side of

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01:00:44.255 --> 01:00:48.205
collective regulation works is
that those three voices bring us

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01:00:48.205 --> 01:00:51.971
to a balanced middle or intend
to, and a proposal on what is

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01:00:51.971 --> 01:00:55.922
the best way forward to improve
standards in each subset of the

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01:00:55.922 --> 01:00:59.564
labour market. It was originally
conceived and agreed with

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01:00:59.564 --> 01:01:03.515
Minister Scully before he moved
to to what's now DSIT, but it's

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01:01:03.515 --> 01:01:07.590
something that is worked on with
with Minister Hollinrake in DBT.

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01:01:07.590 --> 01:01:10.121
As Minister of Labour Markets
currently.

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And then when all of that comes
together, collective regulation

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01:01:14.295 --> 01:01:16.967
creates proposals and and and.
And then, as I mentioned

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01:01:16.967 --> 01:01:19.926
earlier, we go to pilots, such
as with the online recruitment

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01:01:19.926 --> 01:01:20.451
case study.

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So I've mentioned the fact it's
approved by ministers jointly

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01:01:25.815 --> 01:01:28.572
led by Professor at Open
University, brings together

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01:01:28.572 --> 01:01:31.380
those 3 perspectives. The first
example is the online

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01:01:31.380 --> 01:01:34.553
recruitment certification and
the simple diagram is intended

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01:01:34.553 --> 01:01:37.362
just to show really what we
mean, which is where does

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01:01:37.362 --> 01:01:40.274
collective regulation tell us
that we should be sitting

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01:01:40.274 --> 01:01:43.187
between voluntary codes of
conduct and direct statutory

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01:01:43.187 --> 01:01:46.359
regulation? It's not as simple
as saying there's there's one

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01:01:46.359 --> 01:01:49.220
straightforward answer.
Collective regulation takes on

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01:01:49.220 --> 01:01:52.445
all those inputs to create a
blended approach that's relevant

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01:01:52.445 --> 01:01:52.601
to.

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Which have a subset of the labor
market we're currently looking

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01:01:55.194 --> 01:01:55.311
at.

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01:01:56.881 --> 01:02:00.570
So I want to conclude this
morning by saying I've talked a

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01:02:00.570 --> 01:02:04.571
little bit about who jobs aware
are. I've kept it brief and the

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01:02:04.571 --> 01:02:08.635
work we do particularly focused
on online recruitment. We see an

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01:02:08.635 --> 01:02:12.199
awful lot of international
recruitment type scams as Ian

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01:02:12.199 --> 01:02:15.888
has mentioned, we see more
towards the end towards the end

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01:02:15.888 --> 01:02:19.452
of the spectrum of UK brands
being used by fraudsters to

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01:02:19.452 --> 01:02:23.016
trick people overseas into
thinking they've got a job in

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01:02:23.016 --> 01:02:26.955
the UK and spending huge amounts
of money on fake travel, fake

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01:02:26.955 --> 01:02:27.331
visas.

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01:02:27.481 --> 01:02:32.412
Fake recruitment fees. But what
I wanted to end on really was is

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to to to to reiterate.

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Right. What? What businesses can
do and other organizations to

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01:02:38.506 --> 01:02:41.834
help help the cause. If you
imagine our ecosystem that I've

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01:02:41.834 --> 01:02:45.384
already mentioned and the fact
that we partner with, with, with

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01:02:45.384 --> 01:02:49.046
stakeholders all for free to put
the message of jobs aware out to

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01:02:49.046 --> 01:02:52.263
workers and work seekers,
partnering is a key part of our

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01:02:52.263 --> 01:02:55.592
strategy above that partner
level. If you can imagine it as

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01:02:55.592 --> 01:02:59.031
a sort of visual diagram. Our
foundation is a free partnering

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01:02:59.031 --> 01:03:02.582
scheme to get word out to work
seeks and workers and then above

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01:03:02.582 --> 01:03:05.855
that foundation comes on top the
collective regulation and

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01:03:05.855 --> 01:03:06.521
building up.

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Whatever type of a scheme is
relevant to that path, the

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01:03:09.917 --> 01:03:13.671
labour market, So what can other
people do then to support the

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01:03:13.671 --> 01:03:17.603
work of of jobs to where so I've
already said, Ron, almost half a

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01:03:17.603 --> 01:03:21.417
million online adverts a day on
over 10,000 weekly pay slips on

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01:03:21.417 --> 01:03:25.051
over 250 recruitment sites.
Clearly, we want to keep driving

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01:03:25.051 --> 01:03:28.567
that, so we're getting and
reaching more and more workers,

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01:03:28.567 --> 01:03:32.320
and in particular, we're making
the supply chain more and more

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01:03:32.320 --> 01:03:35.776
transparent. Supply chains are
getting ever more complex,

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01:03:35.776 --> 01:03:36.551
whether it's.

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01:03:36.641 --> 01:03:40.505
Many umbrella companies
statement of works type setups,

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01:03:40.505 --> 01:03:44.301
PO's or all the other types of
modern employment type.

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01:03:45.061 --> 01:03:48.542
Uh situations being created, it
is getting more complex, so

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01:03:48.542 --> 01:03:52.023
reaching through that in a
transparent way is key to us. So

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01:03:52.023 --> 01:03:54.983
there are many benefits to
partner with jobs aware

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01:03:54.983 --> 01:03:58.290
depending on what type of
organization we're talking to,

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01:03:58.290 --> 01:04:01.365
whether it's a higher supply
chain intermediary. But

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01:04:01.365 --> 01:04:04.615
effectively it provides free
health and advice on labor

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01:04:04.615 --> 01:04:08.386
market issues to their customer
base. So the eight, we have an 8

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01:04:08.386 --> 01:04:11.810
zed on our platform of worker
help and advice which covers

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01:04:11.810 --> 01:04:14.131
everything from contracts,
holiday pay.

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01:04:15.151 --> 01:04:19.297
And everything in between that 8
to ZED is updated every, uh,

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01:04:19.297 --> 01:04:23.309
every couple of months by a
group that spanned industry and

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01:04:23.309 --> 01:04:27.522
government, including HMRC, DBT
and others, who who who update

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01:04:27.522 --> 01:04:31.401
our 8OZ in a live sort of
ongoing basis. We're not trying

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01:04:31.401 --> 01:04:35.212
to invent the wheel so R A-Z
doesn't replicate the great

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01:04:35.212 --> 01:04:39.425
advice on HMRC about national
and wage. It merely explains the

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01:04:39.425 --> 01:04:43.504
worker what they can expect,
what an www.is and where to get

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01:04:43.504 --> 01:04:44.441
detailed help.

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01:04:44.541 --> 01:04:48.011
There's almost a signposting
everything in one place, but for

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01:04:48.011 --> 01:04:51.425
for hires and intermediaries
it's a way for them to get free

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01:04:51.425 --> 01:04:54.672
help and advice for their
customers. It's about diverting

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01:04:54.672 --> 01:04:57.638
non company specific concerns
and questions. So some

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01:04:57.638 --> 01:05:00.885
organizations use us like
umbrella companies because they

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01:05:00.885 --> 01:05:04.131
get lots of queries about the
recruitment agency, the the

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01:05:04.131 --> 01:05:07.210
workers ultimately working
through. But that's not the

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01:05:07.210 --> 01:05:10.848
umbrella company. So they divert
those to us and that saves them

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01:05:10.848 --> 01:05:14.095
money and time. It's about
leveling the playing field for

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01:05:14.095 --> 01:05:14.711
businesses.

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01:05:14.791 --> 01:05:18.205
So what we talk about a lot is
you imagine 40,000 recruitment

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01:05:18.205 --> 01:05:21.399
agencies out there. Many are
doing the right thing. So if

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01:05:21.399 --> 01:05:24.649
you're doing the right thing,
help work with jobs aware to

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01:05:24.649 --> 01:05:27.898
pass the the message around and
reach workers, we get more

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01:05:27.898 --> 01:05:30.596
intelligence about the bad
players. We can focus

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01:05:30.596 --> 01:05:34.176
enforcement agencies time on the
bad ones, meaning that that the

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01:05:34.176 --> 01:05:37.370
the playing field is leveled.
Overall, I mentioned a case

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01:05:37.370 --> 01:05:40.895
study earlier, well in November
last year, we actually reported

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01:05:40.895 --> 01:05:44.365
more than one recruitment agency
a day to the EAS, such as the

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01:05:44.365 --> 01:05:45.081
scale of the.

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01:05:45.181 --> 01:05:48.325
Reports we're getting through
and what I would would also

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01:05:48.325 --> 01:05:51.741
reiterate is that one reported
day is after we triage them and

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01:05:51.741 --> 01:05:55.103
taken out all the ones that were
spurious or weren't really a

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01:05:55.103 --> 01:05:58.302
breach of the standards. So
that's just the ones that were

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01:05:58.302 --> 01:06:01.772
left that were clearly breaches
and it's about enabling greater

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01:06:01.772 --> 01:06:05.243
supply chain transparency. It's
free for workers. It's free for

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01:06:05.243 --> 01:06:07.900
businesses who partner with us
and it's free for

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01:06:07.900 --> 01:06:10.665
intermediaries. All our
partnership principles are

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01:06:10.665 --> 01:06:14.027
available on the website and
companies can sign up online. So

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01:06:14.027 --> 01:06:15.491
I hope that's been helpful.

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At walk through of the work of
of jobs where I've tried to keep

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01:06:19.156 --> 01:06:22.533
it brief, we're covering a huge
spectrum of the labour market

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01:06:22.533 --> 01:06:25.692
and as a as sort of form of
charity, we we we welcome any

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01:06:25.692 --> 01:06:29.233
coworking opportunities with all
of the great organisations that

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01:06:29.233 --> 01:06:32.011
are here with us today and and
back to you, Julia.

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01:06:36.581 --> 01:06:40.379
OK. Thank you so much. That was
that was really interesting. I I

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01:06:40.379 --> 01:06:43.710
I learned a lot. We've got a
couple of questions, one of

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01:06:43.710 --> 01:06:47.158
which you've answered, which was
Victoria's question about

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01:06:47.158 --> 01:06:50.081
charges. So that is is all free,
is that correct?

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Yeah, absolutely aware. For
transparency, we're funded by

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01:06:54.116 --> 01:06:57.551
what was based and now DBT. So
this is free for all users.

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01:06:58.071 --> 01:07:02.584
OK. That's great to know. And
then one from Joanne Young,

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01:07:02.584 --> 01:07:07.408
what's success do you have, uh
getting fake or cloned job ads

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01:07:07.408 --> 01:07:12.466
down and websites taken down, if
they're, if they're overseas is

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she's a specifically?

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Great questions. So we we take
down dozens of job adverts a

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01:07:18.003 --> 01:07:21.546
week, I would say probably about
a third of those are overseas.

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01:07:21.546 --> 01:07:25.201
It is easier where the job Board
is a multinational because we've

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got relationships with them. If
it is the local job board in

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01:07:28.578 --> 01:07:31.845
Uganda, it is more difficult.
But we work closely with the

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01:07:31.845 --> 01:07:35.444
Metropolitan Police and when we
write to job boards overseas, we

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01:07:35.444 --> 01:07:38.988
copy in the Metropolitan Police
and you'd be surprised how many

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job boards just think that that
has any relevance and so they

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01:07:42.421 --> 01:07:45.854
therefore, of course, there's no
jurisdiction, but they think

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there is. So they.

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Remove it so the success rate is
quite is quite high actually.

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01:07:50.491 --> 01:07:50.731
Right.

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Fantastic. Thank you very much,
Keith. And I don't think we've

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got any other questions.

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And but I think I think that was
was really interesting. So thank

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you very much. And as I say,
please drop any further

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01:08:03.939 --> 01:08:08.203
questions for Keith in the chat
and we can come back to them at

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01:08:08.203 --> 01:08:12.001
the end. OK. This takes us on to
our final presentation.

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From Frank Frank, I think you
you we, we've we've we're we're

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01:08:17.525 --> 01:08:22.278
alright from time wise so we're
we're we're just about where we

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01:08:22.278 --> 01:08:27.179
need to be. So you're gonna take
us take us through the work that

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01:08:27.179 --> 01:08:31.561
we've been around we've been
doing around Romanian workers

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01:08:31.561 --> 01:08:35.868
rights and the next steps for
that work so welcome. Thank

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01:08:35.868 --> 01:08:37.131
Frank. Thank you.

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Thanks, Julia. Yeah, there's
myself and Adina. He's gonna

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01:08:41.829 --> 01:08:45.253
take you through this
presentation. I'll give you a

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01:08:45.253 --> 01:08:49.467
quick introduction. I'll pass to
Adina and then I'll pick up on

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the on the last slide. So good
afternoon, everyone.

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Let's, Julie said. We're just
gonna talk you through this

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prevention project.

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It follows on from the level one
award, the worker rights and

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01:09:03.653 --> 01:09:07.255
level exploitation, which was
launched last year. That's been

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01:09:07.255 --> 01:09:10.974
usually positive and the skills
and education group will design

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01:09:10.974 --> 01:09:14.460
that award a continuing to
promote and expand. Availability

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01:09:14.460 --> 01:09:16.901
of this qualification across the
country.

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01:09:17.621 --> 01:09:21.647
However, we did get feedback
which suggested that it was not

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fully meeting needs within all
of the communities, and I think

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01:09:25.805 --> 01:09:29.634
this was sharp and particular
when we had a we attended a

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01:09:29.634 --> 01:09:33.462
modern slavery conference that
was hosted by the Romanian

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01:09:33.462 --> 01:09:37.488
Embassy and consulate, which
really allowed stakeholders the

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01:09:37.488 --> 01:09:41.778
opportunities to discuss some of
the root causes of exploitation

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01:09:41.778 --> 01:09:43.231
of Romanian nationals.

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And when we look at the the
picture in the UK, there's 1.4

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01:09:48.141 --> 01:09:52.036
million Romanian nationals who
have now applied for settled

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01:09:52.036 --> 01:09:52.491
status.

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The most out of any country in
the EU and many of these workers

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01:09:58.099 --> 01:10:02.754
may lack a a full understanding
of their employment rights and

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01:10:02.754 --> 01:10:06.966
along with cultural and language
barriers, can make them

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01:10:06.966 --> 01:10:08.961
vulnerable to exploitation.

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And added to that, that total is
53% have applied and have only

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01:10:14.761 --> 01:10:19.822
been granted pre settled status
only, so again making them even

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01:10:19.822 --> 01:10:24.645
more vulnerable and exposed to
losing their right to work if

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01:10:24.645 --> 01:10:27.571
they do not reapply and and
upgrade.

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01:10:29.091 --> 01:10:32.699
So all of this is it set the
ground really for us to think

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01:10:32.699 --> 01:10:36.490
about. How could we create and
bespoke and simplified version

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01:10:36.490 --> 01:10:40.159
of the the Level 1 qualification
that could be delivered in

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01:10:40.159 --> 01:10:42.361
Romanian and in Community
settings?

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01:10:43.041 --> 01:10:45.861
Anticipating that this would
have its, you know, the the the

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01:10:45.861 --> 01:10:46.601
greatest impact.

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So the skills and education
Group would tasked to come in

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and and design in effect of
three hour course, not a

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01:10:55.199 --> 01:10:59.778
qualification. So it's just that
it's a 3 hour course, but using

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01:10:59.778 --> 01:11:04.357
the content and the key learning
outcomes from the qualification

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01:11:04.357 --> 01:11:06.611
to frame it within that setting.

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Umm. Through the support of the
the Romanian Embassy, we were

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01:11:11.345 --> 01:11:15.375
able to identify and invite UK
based organizations who were

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01:11:15.375 --> 01:11:19.540
supporting and providing some
really valuable services to the

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01:11:19.540 --> 01:11:23.503
remaining community and we
wanted them to join the project

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01:11:23.503 --> 01:11:27.667
as Community facilitators. And
what we're gonna do now is I'm

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01:11:27.667 --> 01:11:31.966
going to pass you over to Adina,
who was one of those community

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01:11:31.966 --> 01:11:35.661
facilitators. And as I've played
a really key part in.

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01:11:37.061 --> 01:11:41.826
Planning and delivering the
sessions that that took to you

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01:11:41.826 --> 01:11:46.914
know that took place. So I'll
keep the the slides moving Edina

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if you want to to pick up and
take onto the the next stage.

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I'm sure. Thank you very much. I
just I just put in the channel,

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01:11:57.042 --> 01:12:01.032
I'm still on the intro slide. So
can we go to slide three? Good

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01:12:01.032 --> 01:12:04.772
afternoon, everyone. Thank you
so very much for inviting me

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01:12:04.772 --> 01:12:08.450
friend to present with you about
the very successful pilot

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01:12:08.450 --> 01:12:11.816
project. We we worked on
together and it was a bit of

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01:12:11.816 --> 01:12:15.805
finely ring and I think linked
to the other presentations, it's

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01:12:15.805 --> 01:12:19.670
another example of international
collaboration in essence and

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01:12:19.670 --> 01:12:23.161
cross cultural collaboration.
But on the awareness and.

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01:12:23.261 --> 01:12:26.121
Then prevention side of things
rather than enforcement.

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01:12:26.721 --> 01:12:31.534
Umm the the main role we played
as a facilitator or facilitating

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01:12:31.534 --> 01:12:35.682
organization. We also worked on
the content, so we help

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01:12:35.682 --> 01:12:40.199
translate the code simplified
version of the level one award

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01:12:40.199 --> 01:12:42.051
and we made sure that is.

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And I'm responding culturally to
the need for information that we

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01:12:46.441 --> 01:12:50.424
identified through our frontline
work. So for example, there

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01:12:50.424 --> 01:12:53.885
would terms that we help
translate in equivalence in

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01:12:53.885 --> 01:12:57.869
Romanian and we had a lot of
Ohara moments during the course

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01:12:57.869 --> 01:13:01.983
delivery where people actually
understood that the systems are

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01:13:01.983 --> 01:13:05.967
not that different and exactly
what certain, you know, terms

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01:13:05.967 --> 01:13:10.016
refer to certain rights and so
on. So it connected everything

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01:13:10.016 --> 01:13:11.061
very, very well.

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01:13:11.511 --> 01:13:15.924
And and in six weeks we are we,
we managed to deliver 33

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01:13:15.924 --> 01:13:20.105
training sessions between 5:00
to facilitators 3 from

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01:13:20.105 --> 01:13:24.519
organizations organization and
two more from other other

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01:13:24.519 --> 01:13:25.061
groups.

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01:13:25.931 --> 01:13:30.481
And in total, $271.00 attending
the course and at the beginning

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01:13:30.481 --> 01:13:35.032
there was a bit of a reluctance
in the sense that it it sounded

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01:13:35.032 --> 01:13:39.370
very much like ohh there are
issues within our community. So

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01:13:39.370 --> 01:13:40.081
it's it's.

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01:13:41.461 --> 01:13:44.905
With poised to attend, because
Romanians are exploited and so

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01:13:44.905 --> 01:13:48.072
on. But we spoke to a Romanian
researcher at Bournemouth

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01:13:48.072 --> 01:13:51.294
University who provided the
really useful insight, saying

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01:13:51.294 --> 01:13:54.461
that some of the Romanians that
are subject to abuse and

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01:13:54.461 --> 01:13:57.794
exploitation don't. I actually
see themselves as victims as

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01:13:57.794 --> 01:14:01.183
success looks very different for
people in the Community, so

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01:14:01.183 --> 01:14:04.849
having a job that is better paid
than what they earned back home.

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01:14:04.849 --> 01:14:08.016
But it's not necessarily
documented. For example, it may

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01:14:08.016 --> 01:14:11.627
mean that they're happy with the
income and that's that's it. So

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01:14:11.627 --> 01:14:12.961
we changed our approach.

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01:14:13.101 --> 01:14:17.227
We work with local leaders
because this was delivered in

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01:14:17.227 --> 01:14:21.787
various locations across England
and connecting with the local

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01:14:21.787 --> 01:14:24.321
leaders also play the key role
in.

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01:14:24.991 --> 01:14:28.398
At promoting the course and
getting the learners to attend

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01:14:28.398 --> 01:14:31.691
and engage and enhance the
feedback we received was very

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positive.

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01:14:32.831 --> 01:14:36.451
So we're super, super pleased
with that. In terms of those

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with who have attended date, we
had very diverse call course in

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01:14:40.379 --> 01:14:43.754
terms of gender, sexual
orientation, faith ability and

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01:14:43.754 --> 01:14:47.682
disability respectively in your
divergent, divergent and so on.

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01:14:47.682 --> 01:14:51.487
And we also decided to host some
baseball sessions for groups

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01:14:51.487 --> 01:14:54.862
that were particularly
vulnerable. So for example, for

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01:14:54.862 --> 01:14:58.422
domestic abuse in five hours
because we provided domestic

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01:14:58.422 --> 01:15:01.797
abuse support service in
Romanian, we have the session

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01:15:01.797 --> 01:15:04.191
online because of childcare
needs and.

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01:15:04.281 --> 01:15:08.201
Notably this this this was
required and through this we

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01:15:08.201 --> 01:15:11.141
managed to reach those
vulnerable groups.

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01:15:12.501 --> 01:15:14.111
Can we move on to the next
slide, please?

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01:15:16.601 --> 01:15:20.867
And one important thing I think
of in terms of this project is

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that it was very much equity
led. So voices from the

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01:15:24.456 --> 01:15:28.586
communities we were targeting
were present. They contributed

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01:15:28.586 --> 01:15:32.852
to the design and delivery of
this project. So it made it made

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01:15:32.852 --> 01:15:37.050
a huge difference. It helped
build trust and people opened up

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01:15:37.050 --> 01:15:41.384
and discussed about issues they
came across. So they were happy

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01:15:41.384 --> 01:15:45.718
to fill in the feedback form. So
we we gathered a lot of useful

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01:15:45.718 --> 01:15:46.531
information.

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This I was. So for example we
had the learner who was disabled

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01:15:50.348 --> 01:15:54.085
and also illiterate, so we had
to adapt the delivery phase and

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01:15:54.085 --> 01:15:57.584
the the way we deliver it and
use for visuals and so on to

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01:15:57.584 --> 01:16:00.965
make sure that the course is
accessible. So for example,

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01:16:00.965 --> 01:16:04.525
having a room of people where
some learners speak very good

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01:16:04.525 --> 01:16:08.202
English, some other learners do
not experience iterations but

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01:16:08.202 --> 01:16:11.761
speak almost no English and then
a number of people who are

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01:16:11.761 --> 01:16:15.439
completely bitrate and don't
speak English at all. So we have

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01:16:15.439 --> 01:16:17.041
to adapt and work with the.

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01:16:17.141 --> 01:16:20.387
With the room basically to make
sure that the course is

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01:16:20.387 --> 01:16:21.721
accessible to everyone.

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01:16:23.371 --> 01:16:27.917
Unfortunately, or you know just
flowing again and demonstrating

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01:16:27.917 --> 01:16:32.179
the need for such a program, the
99% of course at attendees

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01:16:32.179 --> 01:16:36.157
experience one or more work
related issues and we speak

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01:16:36.157 --> 01:16:40.348
about people who are either
highly skilled or have limited

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01:16:40.348 --> 01:16:44.681
skills. And as I said with a
range of needs and very diverse

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01:16:44.681 --> 01:16:46.031
groups of learners.

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01:16:46.971 --> 01:16:50.769
I've mentioned already the
domestic abuse survivors session

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01:16:50.769 --> 01:16:54.884
that was delivered online, which
has been very well received and

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01:16:54.884 --> 01:16:58.429
it covered a huge gap in the
market and also the highly

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01:16:58.429 --> 01:17:02.290
skilled workers. Skilled workers
mainly raised issues around

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01:17:02.290 --> 01:17:06.278
discrimination at work. So for
example, they were not accepted

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01:17:06.278 --> 01:17:10.267
as a main point of contact for
the team or for the clients, or

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01:17:10.267 --> 01:17:14.128
they were excluded from social
gatherings or they were given

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01:17:14.128 --> 01:17:16.281
tasks more than other
colleagues.

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Umm. Of different nationalities.
It was really interesting to

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01:17:19.859 --> 01:17:23.001
hear how people who are
perfectly fluent in English and

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01:17:23.001 --> 01:17:26.423
understand their rights were
still subject to discrimination

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01:17:26.423 --> 01:17:29.396
and I think the other videos
that we had part of the

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01:17:29.396 --> 01:17:32.874
presentation were very helpful
because we're showing examples

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01:17:32.874 --> 01:17:36.072
where employers refuse to
recruit more people to provide

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01:17:36.072 --> 01:17:39.607
the that needed resource so they
don't put a lot of stress and

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01:17:39.607 --> 01:17:43.029
pressure on the existing stuff
which you know in the in that

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01:17:43.029 --> 01:17:46.171
case they they've been through
that kind of experience.

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01:17:46.811 --> 01:17:48.071
And another interesting and.

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And a point in a huge success, I
think is that we managed to

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reach some of the Roma Romanian
communities.

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And one of the Roman leaders
that attended one of the courses

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01:17:59.759 --> 01:18:03.908
mentioned, young Roma Romanians
that are struggling to secure

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01:18:03.908 --> 01:18:08.191
employment and access trainings
because of some of them because

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01:18:08.191 --> 01:18:12.340
of the language barrier and or
some other ones because of the

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01:18:12.340 --> 01:18:16.555
literacy issues. So this is a
particularly vulnerable group of

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01:18:16.555 --> 01:18:20.771
young men who are really keen to
work. And also we had another

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01:18:20.771 --> 01:18:25.188
group of Romanian Roma women who
were stay at home moms who never

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01:18:25.188 --> 01:18:26.861
had access to any formal.

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01:18:26.951 --> 01:18:30.241
And education in terms of
gaining skills and looking at

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01:18:30.241 --> 01:18:33.884
their employability and so on.
But with the children growing,

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01:18:33.884 --> 01:18:37.351
they were very keen to find
something that could help them

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01:18:37.351 --> 01:18:40.935
get into the jobs market and you
know, finding some jobs and

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01:18:40.935 --> 01:18:42.111
gaining some skills.

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Can you? Bye. Thank you.

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I think frankly, only to discuss
about this or.

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01:18:50.441 --> 01:18:54.537
Yeah, I'll. I'll jump in now,
Adina, fast. So that's OK. So

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01:18:52.981 --> 01:18:54.411
Thank you. Yeah.

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thanks ever so much for that.
And and and as Adina said, there

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was so much we've learned from
that we've produced an interim

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01:19:03.072 --> 01:19:07.374
evaluation, but there is a full
evaluation to be completed and

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01:19:07.374 --> 01:19:11.129
that will be published next
month. But as you can see,

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01:19:11.129 --> 01:19:13.723
there's a number of
opportunities and

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01:19:13.723 --> 01:19:17.752
recommendations that have been
gathered from the Community

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01:19:17.752 --> 01:19:19.391
facilitators themselves.

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And and you have have a really
gave us the insight that we

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wouldn't have gained had we not
use them in the way that we that

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01:19:29.371 --> 01:19:29.951
we have.

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Looking at next steps, as I say,
we're gonna complete an and

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01:19:35.571 --> 01:19:40.399
publish a full evaluation. We've
already started the translation

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01:19:40.399 --> 01:19:44.782
of this course into into other
languages we've piloted, or

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01:19:44.782 --> 01:19:48.941
we've produced an easy read
version of this course, and

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01:19:48.941 --> 01:19:53.397
we're gonna pile it that with
people with special education

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01:19:53.397 --> 01:19:58.003
needs a later this year to see
how that is received. But most

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of all, once we ready, we want
to invite partners.

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To work with us, to help roll
the course out to target

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01:20:05.550 --> 01:20:09.327
targeted communities and what
we'd like you to do, there is a

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01:20:09.327 --> 01:20:13.042
a survey that we're gonna put
into the chat, just asking you

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01:20:13.042 --> 01:20:16.697
some questions about working
with us and what we'd like you

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01:20:16.697 --> 01:20:20.473
to do is just give an expression
of interest. Nothing more is

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01:20:20.473 --> 01:20:24.188
required at this stage. But if
you are interested, then just

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01:20:24.188 --> 01:20:27.782
let us know, leave your contact
details. And when we're in

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01:20:27.782 --> 01:20:31.497
position, we can get back in
touch. And as I say, take it to

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01:20:31.497 --> 01:20:32.411
the next stage.

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01:20:32.781 --> 01:20:35.664
But thank you for listening and
and happy to take any any

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01:20:35.664 --> 01:20:36.161
questions.

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01:20:38.641 --> 01:20:42.914
Well, well done, Frank. Thank
you. Adina, I have to say really

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01:20:42.914 --> 01:20:46.644
impressive work from from
everybody and I, I suppose I

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01:20:46.644 --> 01:20:51.121
just wanted to sort of reflect a
little bit on a couple of things

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01:20:51.121 --> 01:20:55.530
around prevention. So this is a
really great example of the work

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01:20:55.530 --> 01:20:59.396
that the GLAA can do with
partners in the communities to

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01:20:59.396 --> 01:21:03.804
really sort of prevent labeling
labour exploitation. But also we

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01:21:03.804 --> 01:21:08.145
did see earlier in, in, in, in
Ian's presentation prevention in

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01:21:08.145 --> 01:21:09.231
a different way.

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01:21:09.301 --> 01:21:13.585
Which is through this sort of
meet and greets. If you like

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01:21:13.585 --> 01:21:18.088
coming off aeroplanes and or
borders. So I think it's. I just

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01:21:18.088 --> 01:21:22.372
don't want to lose the in the
context of the strategy, the

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01:21:22.372 --> 01:21:26.802
importance of prevention and how
it can be woven through all

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01:21:26.802 --> 01:21:31.450
sorts of different types of work
that the GLAA does and and and

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01:21:31.450 --> 01:21:36.098
how important it it it is to us.
So just a sort of an opposite,

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01:21:36.098 --> 01:21:39.221
an observation from, from me.
Frank Keith.

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In adina. Sam, thank you very
much indeed for all of your

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01:21:43.996 --> 01:21:48.868
presentations today. I might put
it Elysia, a little bit on the

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01:21:48.868 --> 01:21:53.739
on the spot is just if there's
anything that she wants to cover

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01:21:53.739 --> 01:21:58.231
off and I will stand up and move
and she can take my seat.

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01:21:59.881 --> 01:22:03.125
I am, I think all I'd say is
thank you all for coming. It's

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01:22:03.125 --> 01:22:06.370
really good to see so many
people contributing to this. And

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I think the key thing that
stands out for me is the

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partnership working that we do.
So you know the jobs aware work,

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working with the dinner on this
kind of thing really helps us to

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maximize the impact that we have
and to make sure that we're

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working in sort of the best
possible way that we can. And we

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really appreciate those partner
working relationships. And it's

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just really nice to see the
impact and the benefits of those

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as we have today.

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And so I think that's it for me.
Thank you.

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Thanks, Alicia, and thank you
everybody else. And we I think

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we're going to just get try and
seek some feedback on the sort

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of format and nature of these
webinars and and presentations.

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So please do expect something
from us in the future and we

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would be hugely appreciative if
you could just take a few

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moments to respond to those
because we we do want to make

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sure that these are useful for
you and.

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And helpful. So thank you very
much indeed everybody for coming

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today. It's been really
interesting set of presentations

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and enjoy the rest of your
weeks. Thank you very much.